ok so i am looking at the evo 8 and wrx sti i know im on a evo forum but plz tell me the truth what is the best car 2 get


i only like to drag race

tough question.....( am' a evo fan, but cant say if evo is better )

According to Car and Driver, they are basically the same car as far as performance. Out of the same tests, they were both close, so it's basically up to you, which looks better to you?

If you're looking for drag/strip I'd go with the EVO. But then again the STi does a hell of a lot better straight then the EVO.

Last year when the DSM world had the EVO .vs. WRX shot out the EVO took (if I remember right) 7 out of 8 finishes. That not only tells you about the EVO, but it should make your decision a lot easier.

If you only like to drag race, I'd go with the STi just cos you get a 2.5 block to start with. As far as mods go, both have just as many great after market parts that can make your car fly. Personally I like the EVO better but that's a "preference" thing, not an objective evaluation. I've actually looked into both in detail and I find that the STi has a much more refined interior and behaves a lot better as a daily driver also. The EVO tends to be more ballsy making it just a little rougher for daily street driving.

Let us know which way you go.

i always liked the evo more, until i test drove both. On paper they are so close it really comes down to preference. I like the way the sti drove better. It DEFINITELY felt faster, 6 speed, very short gears ( u finish the quarter mile in 5th), it accelerates like crazy. the evo felt weak at high rpms jus like a typical dsm. I also think the sti looks beter with black and gold rims, and the inside is nicer. As far as handling, supposedly the evo is more refined, but for everyday driving i found the steering to be too tight, it was jerky and didnt wana stay in a strait line on the freeway. Another note, the evo is full of electronics in the suspension and lsds where as the sti has more feedback. Id rather have the feedback and not have to worry about electronic failure down the road.

Car and Driver said if I remember right, the sti is better in acceleration, but when they had a pro drive on a rally course, the evo won hands down... I prefer races with more than 4 turns, so I'd go with the evo myself, lol.

Well I am in the same boat here i Am looking to trade in my spyder for either an EVO or an STi

Here is what I found..the STi yes it has a 2.5L but it uses alluminum blocks the displacement gives you a little more tourqe but it is also weaker because of the blocks..I read about alot of STi owners cracking the ringlands at a little more than 400AWD (weak pistons, only JDMs used forged internals stock, also JDM was only 2.0L) I have read about quit a few CV joint issues with the STis as well

In my opinion the STi is better looking and has a nicer interior but the EVO has more potencial, both cars have there pros and cons I know that the EVOs have weak stock clutches and My buddy had his transfer case go out at only 1200 Miles on the odo

I myself am now leaning towards the EVO because on the potencial and the eaise of modding where as the boxer engine the heads are at each side of the enginh bay with the exhaust facing down and the intake manifold on top, Basicly is just like looking at a V platform engine but only 4 cylinders, and weak pistons, ringlands are not something I want to worry about

i'll just wait till evo 9 comes out........that should answer the question.:D

ok so if i go with the evo are mods a lil less $$$ than the sti or about the same. i am 17 and have had 2 save a lot of $$$ so that my mom will even think of me doing this i have now 22k and if i have 2 i will make payments but will be broke for sometime so i want a car that is easy 2 mod and the best 2 mod..............................o can some 1 tell me the 1/4 mile time on both cars stock TY

Mods for the EVO might be less, not sure but the STi has a little better resale value it seems. I think the EVO is the eaisier to mod because of one main reason..The 4G63 motor has been around in Evos, eclipses, galants since the early 90s over 10 years on fine tunning whereas the 2.5L boxer motor in the STi is a first year of prodution in 2003/04

The stock for stock comparisen the EVO VIII runs consistant 14.0s and the STi I have seen run Mid 13s..I beleive the MR edition EVO stock does a mid 13 as well, keep in mind the STi motor is a bit weaker than everyone seems to think They have been know to crack ringlands after the 400AWHP platoe and pistons can be an expensive fix when you dont really have the extra cash

I am leaning more towards getting an EVO however I found some things very interesting I notices on evolutionforums.com there was a large number of members with 03 EVO VIIIs and they all had the same problems bad trannys 2-3gear shifts all ways grind and clutches needing replacment after only about 15k miles. there was even a few early production 03s that had spun bearings with under 10kmiles, now on paper that sounds bad but the warenty "should" cover that.. Mitsubishi has been very tough with what can be honered by warenty in the past. and I belsive the EVOs have some sort of "black box" that records your driving habits, so fi you like to race around and launch at 6k, then it breaks somthing and they look at what this "box" records and see that they will VOID your warrenty....this is just what I have heard however I will say a friend of mine raced his EVO all day launching it hard a few times a day well his transfer case went out on him at 1200mile on the odo and they still fixed it under warrenty

IMO the EVO is your best route it must have more parts out than the STi because of the time that the 4G63 has been out there

Im an Evo fan n also an STi fan, but I'd still prefer Evo's neway. I heard in 03' that the Evo 8 actually has the strongest inline 4 engine in America, which really isn't bad for an inline 4 engine. Now the STi has horizontally opposed engines n they have 300+ horses but really their engines arent as strong as the Evo engines. Yea it has more power n torque but their engines can break quickly n can be expensive to fix since they are horizontally opposed...not like the inline 4's. I'd say get the Evo, or wait till the Evo 9 comes out next year...btw the Evo 9 looks exactly like the 8 only wit a slighty different front bumpers, it looks alot slimmer tho.

anybody knoes the spec. for evo 9???

the evo 9 is practically the same stats as the 8, same engine only a few upgrades.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=9394

"its gets a +10hp boost to 286HP, mostly from a new-to-Evo variable-valve-timing system."

"With the Evo IX MR, we saw 60 mph in 4.6 seconds and the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 104 mph, the fleetest sprinting we've garnered from any stock Evo."

2006 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION IX MR
Vehicle type: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
Estimated price as tested: $35,700 (estimated base price: $35,700)
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, iron block and aluminum head, port fuel injection
Displacement: 122 cu in, 1997cc
Power (SAE net): 286 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 289 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

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Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 103.3 in
Length/width/height: 178.5/69.7/57.1 in
Curb weight: 3300 lb
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: .11.9 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.4 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.4 sec @ 104 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 19 mpg

One of the things that would make the Evo a better choice for straight line racing (if thats your thing) is that you only have to rip through 5 gears instead of six. Six gears are great to stay in the powerband during cornering, but that is its purpose. It is my belief that if you could have the exact same reactions in each car, The EVO would win because of its gearing. Honestly, Tear into a boxer engine is not my idea of a good time, leave it to the Porche's. Inreply to the earlier post, Evo has a 4G64, not a 63.(longer stroke).

ORIGINAL: FireDoc
, Evo has a 4G64, not a 63.(longer stroke).


Acually the 2000+ Eclipse galant stratus all have 4G64 engines and the 91-99 Eclipse turbo galant VR4 and now the EVO share the 4G63 engine only thing with the evo is the motor is reveresed the throttle body is on the opposite side as the older cars and now the evo has a twin scroll 16G rather than the eclipses that had 14b turbos form 91-94 and had a T25 from 95-99

Ok back on the which do I want thing I Just got myself an EVO last week it is an 03 black 12k miles loaded.. this car is the best buy I love the way it drives and corners it stickes to the srteet like you would never believe...GO WITH THE EVO

My mistake, I got confused. You have to put the 4g64 crank into the 63. Now we have a stroker.

thinkin of gettin the RS mod. lighter ...

If the EVO 9 has VVT it will be a much better driving car. While VVT will increase the HP a bit the main benefit is that you will get high torque over a much wider rpm range. It increases drivability dramatically.

I read a lot of both cars, sti is more sofisticated but evo said in words of the owners of sti evo is a lot better. Any car of any manufacturer have mechanical problems. The evo 9 is the best way to go in the right direction and the smart choice. In my opinion.

when is evo 9 due to come out???

I herd the end of summer?? ... All I have to say is the 4G63 motor has been in these Mitsubishis for 15 years. I think that alone says something. the 4G63 has to have something done right to still be going into cars(the top rally cars in the world at that). Subaru has changed from there 2.0 turbo WRX motor to a 2.5 turbo motor the 2.5 offers a bit more TQ but it runs even more hot than a normal inline motor and the Pistons are very weak in the STis

If anything the MR EVO 9 will be the one to get the car is said to be looking at very low 13 second 1\4 mile times I mean the 2005 EVO RS is at 13.1 stock the 05 MR is at 13.3 and the VIII is at 13.4 all fast cars and the EVO 9 will be about 10 more HP

Or like ME. I have an 03 VIII it runs 14.0 stock reason why is because the pre2005 models boost spike at 19PSI and settle in at 16 PSI where it is held to redline, the 2005 models run 20.5 PSI and I have read that the 03 model with a boost controller set to hold the same boost(20PSI) has dynod around 40-60 more WHP(not sure if its in fact that much I have read it only no dyno sheets or VIDs to prove it at least I havent seen them)

ORIGINAL: Winshawn

If the EVO 9 has VVT it will be a much better driving car. While VVT will increase the HP a bit the main benefit is that you will get high torque over a much wider rpm range. It increases drivability dramatically.


Offcourse! whats this bs with 'IX is the same as VIII" thing?!
+ you have got perfect recaros, the VVT MIVEC motor with the quite huge torque improvement, the diffusor, better air intake etc...

if i bought another one i would go with the 03 or 04.. not a fan of the vvt mivec plus how much is the diffuser really... 100.. 150.... not much

if u only like drag slearly a sti it gets a lot more power to the wheels

ORIGINAL: 1meansleeper

if u only like drag slearly a sti it gets a lot more power to the wheels



Ya but with a lot more unreliability. The fastest EVO VIII on evom.net runs a 9.77 in the 1/4 mile and there are a least 3-4 others in the high 9s the 10s forget about it there ar a ton of evos there. The fastest STi I have ever even heard of ran a 10.2

Go EVO all the way!!

ORIGINAL: trinababe

if i bought another one i would go with the 03 or 04.. not a fan of the vvt mivec plus how much is the diffuser really... 100.. 150.... not much


Why aren't you a fan of better gas mileage and more power when you need it>?

ORIGINAL: 1meansleeper

if u only like drag slearly a sti it gets a lot more power to the wheels


Yes but the EVO is alot stronger. the STi requires you to finish a 1/4 in 5th(i think its 5th away) the EVO with a reflash always the car to very easily finish it in 4th . a reflash will bump the revlimiter up to 7800RPMs from 7400RPMs(REDLINE at 7000) and alot of guys actually run them up that high with very few mods.

what do you mean the STi is more sophisticated it has basic limited slip differentials while the Evo has differentials run by computers. Also for the Which to get I would say get the Evo because the engine is stronger and more refined. The Evo cant beat the Sti on the quarter mile but in the corners the Evo would whoop the STi because the STi has extreme understeer while the Evo has little to none,although you wouldnt care about that. So the Evo has more tuning potential for less money because the 4G63T(EVO) can withstand more boost with stock internals(Heard of one running 29psi), but the EJ25 starts with 500cc more displacement but pretty weak block. The choice is basically up to you, which one do you see yourself in?

ORIGINAL: JDMVR43000

what do you mean the STi is more sophisticated it has basic limited slip differentials while the Evo has differentials run by computers. Also for the Which to get I would say get the Evo because the engine is stronger and more refined. The Evo cant beat the Sti on the quarter mile but in the corners the Evo would whoop the STi because the STi has extreme understeer while the Evo has little to none,although you wouldnt care about that. So the Evo has more tuning potential for less money because the 4G63T(EVO) can withstand more boost with stock internals(Heard of one running 29psi), but the EJ25 starts with 500cc more displacement but pretty weak block. The choice is basically up to you, which one do you see yourself in?

i, agree.