92 3KGT - huge clatter - blown or something else?
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92 3KGT - huge clatter - blown or something else?
92 SL with blown engine - huge CLATTER!
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Just bought 92 SL (135k) with blown engine - I actually wanted one with blown engine for father-son project. Just finished a rebuild on a 4L Jeep, and recognize this is more complex - Jeep sort of a warm-up :-)
I have seen, heard, and worked on several blown engines - but nothing sounded as awful as this thing - other than spinning a bearing (could happen anytime - but somehow this just doesn't sounds like that), or bending valves (usually only when jumping a couple teeth on the belt - this does sound more like that), is there anything else that could cause this horrific "clatter?"
I pulled the two cam covers to see if there was anything to indicate belt damage, etc, but looks clean, belt is tight, nothing out of the ordinary ... I also used contact scope to listen and the back bank of cylinders does sound worse - but is so darn loud, can't really tell.
PO just had the oil changed, and said this started - is there ANY chance this could be one or more valve lash adjusters with air in them - the shop manual seems to spend some significant time on this? How many with air in the adjuster would it take to make a significant amount of clatter?
Will drain oil next and maybe pull the pan to look.
Appreciate any comments or thoughts.[/align]
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Just bought 92 SL (135k) with blown engine - I actually wanted one with blown engine for father-son project. Just finished a rebuild on a 4L Jeep, and recognize this is more complex - Jeep sort of a warm-up :-)
I have seen, heard, and worked on several blown engines - but nothing sounded as awful as this thing - other than spinning a bearing (could happen anytime - but somehow this just doesn't sounds like that), or bending valves (usually only when jumping a couple teeth on the belt - this does sound more like that), is there anything else that could cause this horrific "clatter?"
I pulled the two cam covers to see if there was anything to indicate belt damage, etc, but looks clean, belt is tight, nothing out of the ordinary ... I also used contact scope to listen and the back bank of cylinders does sound worse - but is so darn loud, can't really tell.
PO just had the oil changed, and said this started - is there ANY chance this could be one or more valve lash adjusters with air in them - the shop manual seems to spend some significant time on this? How many with air in the adjuster would it take to make a significant amount of clatter?
Will drain oil next and maybe pull the pan to look.
Appreciate any comments or thoughts.[/align]
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RE: 92 3KGT - huge clatter - blown or something else?
If the clatter is as loud and pronounced as you say, I can't believe it would be lifter tick.
Drain the oil, check for metal flakes. Cut the filter up, do the same.
Let us know what you find.
Drain the oil, check for metal flakes. Cut the filter up, do the same.
Let us know what you find.
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RE: 92 3KGT - huge clatter - blown or something else?
join this forum :
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i guarantee you that they will help you with this. thats my home forum. i LOVE that place. from what i hear, it doesnt sound like bent valves, thats more like a "ting, ting, ting" noise.. lol. but you never know. it may as well be a spun bearing. maybe it threw a rod? im not sure. but join that forum above, and they will help you.
http://www.florida3s.com
i guarantee you that they will help you with this. thats my home forum. i LOVE that place. from what i hear, it doesnt sound like bent valves, thats more like a "ting, ting, ting" noise.. lol. but you never know. it may as well be a spun bearing. maybe it threw a rod? im not sure. but join that forum above, and they will help you.
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