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Old 07-21-2007, 01:28 PM
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HeyI have 6bolt in my 2g so without getting link what can I do to solve the cas problem that im going to have.
 
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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Yes. There are a few diagrams online on how to solve the misfire issue. Give me a minute or so and I'll link them.
 
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:24 PM
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Here's a good one from our local member, Spinz4.
http://dsmftw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=441
 
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Old 07-22-2007, 09:08 PM
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So amI going to have the misfire then with 7 bolthead on it
 
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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No, you're going to have a misfire because of the firing order of a 2G ECU. Remember, the CAS is a sensor that came from a 1G that used a 1G ECU
The 2G ECU has two sensor in 2 different locations which has a more accurate meter capability over the 1G CAS, but you need the 1G CAS on a 1G block. Another way to help this is to use a blacktop CAS which is a hall effect sensor just like the 2G Cam and Crank sensors.

Ok, so as to make sure you're not confused....whether you have a 1G motor or just the block, on a 2G you will still get the random misfire and that it has nothing to do with the 2G head, it's all about the ECUs. DSMLink can correct the misfire by correcting the firing order and that will save you the headache of rewiring the CAS or moving the order of the wires.

Next, if you have the green top CAS, you will still get random misfires. The black top has been noted to help with that.

 
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:35 PM
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I thought the 7 bolts have crank angle sensor and the 6 bolts have cam angle sensor so if you have6 bolt the 2g ecu is programmed to read crank angle sensor but the 6 bolt doesnt haveit
 
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:00 PM
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back to what silver said. 2nd gens use 2 sensor for timing. Crank and Cam sensor. 6 bolt uses the Cam sensor and in the situation of a 6 bolt swap into a 2nd gen, the 6 bolt Cam sensor simulates the Crank sensor for the ecu. Since its simulated and not as accurate you get that nice random missfire code. Silver couldn't he just opt to re use his original sensor and machine a spot for the cam sensor on the 1g block. ? I know i read about the methods of swaping. and one method reuses the 2nd gen top end and the other is a complete 1st gen block. ill try to find it again..
 
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:08 PM
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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...hp?p=151001500 here that nice post just to read about . replace with d s m tuners with no spaces.
 
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:23 PM
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There's a shop that uses a 6 bolt with 2G cam and crank sensor, making it a literal drop in. I forget where it is though. I think I read about it in Tuners which had a link to the shop or something like that.
 
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:07 PM
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Yah that wut the shop here doo. Cuz when i showed them my car they were puzzled why it would do that missfire. Gave it to them for a week to play with then told them after the ways of fixing it. Didn't charge me but i proved to them that i am not just a owner who knows nothing. i know 1 or 2 things lol..
 




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