Eclipse GST potential?
 

Ok, so a stock GST has roughly 210 (am i right?)... So One of the first upgrades would be BOV and boost controller right? Well first whats a decent boost contorller and where can I get it. But the question is, it has about 210 horsepower with 9-12 PSI? Say its at like 9 PSI, and I turn the boost up to 15. How much HP are we looking at?

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just so you are clear....210hp is to the crank. it probably puts somewhere around 180 to the ground.

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Cant do the math for that the more boost you add the more hp a lb is worth. Personally I dont think that is a good mod list to start at. Get a intake and exaust first before you raise the boost. Getting the exaust will help your car spool a bit quicker, and give you more top end power. Getting an intake will remove the restrictive air box thats in the way of the turbo. If you do want to get a boost controler. Check ( if I rember correctly) joepmbc.com 45bucks w/o shipping but has a life time warrenty. For the bov get something that you can recirculate(not rfl).

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actually stock eclipses dyno around 170 when they are new. kinda sad. anyway who cares about how much more horsepower you get. jus do some upgrades and yo will be faster. horsepower numbers vary all the time anyway between dynoes, temps, elevation etc

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well I thought everyone was saying u cant get a cold air intake because of the Turbo being in the way? what would i get then?

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there is a difference between a Cold Air Intake for a non-turbo car and an intake for a turboed car. you cannot put a typical CAI on a turboed car, but you can put an aftermarket intake on a turboed car.

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Yeah there are plenty of intake options for Eclipses it's all in WHICH engine you have. The intake is obviously going to be INCREDIBLY different due to difference in induction methods.

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no one said get a cold air intake. jus get a filter.

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Yep filter and smoothed piping ;)

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I think he is refering to his local crowd. Some people out their just shouldn't be able to drive/ own a car

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Yeah but then again THAT is everywhere EVERYONE knows SOMEONE that shouldn't OWN a car let alone drive one LOL.

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Dont let people that drive summting that couldnt kill an escort tell you what to do... Tell them to get bent!

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LOL If you find them gettin whipped by Geo Metro's then laugh and keep goin LOL.

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Yea i wouldnt stop either... just roll the window down, give the finger, and go find some real car guys to hang out with...:D

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I don't know who brought up the cold air intake, but it's close to pointless on a turboed car since your turbo will heat up the air after anyways, and then your intercooler will cool it down, so the initial difference in air temperature you will get from a CAI to a "short ram" will be minuscule to nothing.

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LOL I wouldn't give them the finger if they're gettin whupped by a Metro. I'd roll the window down laugh and wave at thier sorry @$$es LOL

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Your just that much nicer than me snag...Lol

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and thats exactly why its NOT called a cold air intake. the reason for an intake on a turboed car is to do away with the restrictive stock intake. its not to get colder air.

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IF the tb sucks air from the crank case by the pcv valve would the air really be that muck colder even with a cai on a normal car?

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Yes cuz how much air is the intake going to suck from the camcase (for lack of better term). Think about it. The PCV valve is a pressure control and vaccum system valve. It's there to maintain a certain pressure on the camcase. It's not there to SUCK air out it's there to allow the head's upper end to vent itself vice blowing out gaskets. You'll get a VERY small amount of air sent through that. Not enough to change the air temp more than a fraction of a degree.

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theres no such thing : TURBO C.A.I. if, you want a cold air , get a bigger intercooler.

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if your worried about the pcv valve what do you think about the egr valve... lol. Like sang said its minimal. The motor its self is hot once the air enters the motor it gets hot.

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Exactly not only that but the POINT of a CAI is to reduce the temp of the air going in to reduce overall temp. Think about it this way: I have a pot of boiling water and a pot of ice water. I put them on similar heat for 1 minute which one would YOU stick your hand in afterwards? Every degree cooler the air going in even though it DOES get heated it's STILL a degree cooler than it would have been if warmer air went it.

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OOOHHHHhhhhh Just wanted a yes or no awnser... Sorry to get your panties in a bunch sang....

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What good is a yes or no answer if you don't understand the WHY??? If you know WHY then you'll remember the answer later in life and you'll understand the workings of things a bit better. And the more you understand about the engine workings the better you'll be at making it work how it's s'posed to and squeezing out that last bit of HP from it.

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So if my valve is clogged it is enough pressure to make my car run rough? I had a bad pcv valve on a sunbird and the car ran like **** at certain speeds and had crappy gas milage. stupid three dollar part.

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It shouldn't cause it to run rough. It'll just blow out the valve cover gasket

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It would run rough at about 70 mph but if i drove 60 it was fine. changed the pcv valve and it ran fine never had that problem again. It was ohc and i used a rubber gasket with metal inserts around the screw holes.

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ok so like i said before. say u get a new BOV, intake, and Boostcontroller. How much faster would it make it. It runs mid 15s stock, so wut would u estimate the time would be with little mods like tht.