Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

Here's some pics and some tips from what I found out.

The before... note the crappy paper speakers. Take the front seat out... takes 5 minutes and will save you much stress.

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I put in a 36sq ft "bulk pack" of dynomat extreme. Good coverage on the exterior surfaces, then just randomly put some on the interior sheetmetal layer. They want you to think you need to cover it wall to wall, but you get 95% the benefit with 50% the coverage. Take care with the plastic film on the doors - you can reattach it with the same goopy black sealant that is on it.
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See the inside? There's another bigger hole on the bottom half of the door (under the plastic in the pic), so it's really not that bad to get inside. The outer sheetmetal is pretty much one big open space to cover with dynamat.
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Speakers
 

I don't know why my pictures are tall and skinny, but oh well.

Speakers both front and rear are really good sized for deep 6.5". I just made spacers to bring the overall height from the mounting surface up to match that of the original plastic speaker surrounds. Then I put on the grills and some adhesive neoprene. This mated up to a ridge on the inside of the door panel that formed a very nice seal - as well as preloading the panel against vibration. It worked very well, and it's very quiet with very good bass response. The only thing I DIDN'T do, would be to construct closed boxes out of the doors. The holes in the doors are huge, and the door panel sticks into the hole. It would take more skill than I have to box them in. It might be worth it though.

Rear door Inifiniti Kappas (I later decided not to even power these)... but the're there.
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Front A/D/S A6is. Not the good space for the crossovers. Big crossovers might not fit, but these were perfect.
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Showing the neoprene gasket I was talking about.
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And of course, tweeters. These may have been able to hide inside the pod, but it would have been pretty tough to mount solidly. I think they look pretty good, even with the overlap on the stock grill/holes. Looks better in person than closeup with flash.
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Wiring
 

Wiring went OK. I spend 80% of my time wiring in a JL Audio Cleansweep, which I wasn't happy with, so I pulled it out.

Main amp wire.... run through the grommet with the A/C hoses. I just cut a little slit, then soaped up the wire and slid it in. Went through easily, but finding it behind the dash took a little contorting. Be very careful if slitting it, not to cut your a/c hoses. I ran it down the drivers side, and it tucked in nicely (4gauge).

NOTE: I got a 20' wire and it was BARELY long enough to go to my amps. It's a big car. Don't get the 17' kits off ebay if you are going as far back as I am.

I had tons of noise problems with the signal wires. I have pretty high gains and decent power on the fronts, so it really blows things up. I think the fuel pump power runs down the passenger side sill, and this was causing noise. You may do better on drivers side, but I had already run power and wasn't redoing it. There's a big wiring harness running side to side, under the passenger seat. That seemed to make noise for me too. I ended up running it down the center console, then up over the rear seat A/C duct (which brought it 3" up over that wiring harness), then made a groove in the styrofoam in the rear seat floor. This ended up pretty quiet, and tucked away safe.

The Aux in plug in the center console comes out in one of the plugs to the oem radio. So I tied into that and fed the aux in on my head unit.
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See the bundle ziptied to the A/C duct?
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The Aux in from the center console comes out here... Sorry for the crappy picture (and info), but the key wires are Red/Orange/Brown. I just checked continuity on the plug till I figured it out. I can't remember which is which, but orange and red were next to eachother, so it seemed like brown would be ground - but it wasn't ;) I think orange (75% sure). I just tinned my wires and stuck them in the connector. It works well. This is all I listen to.
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Head unit
 

We've all seen the saga of the head unit by now. It came out OK, and I will make it look a little cleaner in weeks to come - or replace with double-din at some point. Here's a pic showing the old dash peice lined up in front of the head... bummer!

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Amps and heat
 

I put the amps in the rear. I had the crappy 3rd row seat, which made it come out not as clean (carpet cutouts). I'm not really into the show though, and I cover it up anyway.
Soundstream Reference 644s
Zed Audio 'The Duece"
BTW, the head is a Nakamichi CD400 with a dead CD player that I'm just using as a preamp for my mp3 player (iRiver H140)

Had to cool the enclosure as it's pretty tight with that second amp being much larger than I anticipated. Two 80mm cpu fans... I can barely hear them if I mute everything and try really hard. They are on a relay and turn on with the amps. I'm not a wiring nazi, but everything is secure. The loose speaker wire is for the sub which I move around alot. The computer connector in the center is for the fans (on the lid). Yes, BTW, those are sparkles in the felt - not dirty. LOL.

So here's the rest and some finish shots ( I'm going to clean up and finish that plywood cover and maybe paint the fan leuvers gray next weekend). That grate is very sturdy and will screw down to the plywood cover - so cargo area is perfectly useful.

Overall, I think it sounds excellent and I'm very pleased. It was a bit of a pain, but turned out OK.

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RE: Amps and heat
 

Wow that is a lot of work!! Looking good though. I guess you may have forgot... but HOW DOES IT SOUND?? ;)

RE: Amps and heat
 

Awesome job but why slack on the house vent?? I seen you said you were going to paint it but its killing me.

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Awesome job man, very well done :) is the dynomat any useful? ive thought about getting it bout i had some doubts

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Congrat!You put some hours into!
I understand you like the Nakamichi unit,but the Alpine new unit without cd looks so much better .Or maybe you want to keep the old cd player as theft-deterrent!:) Plus,using usb connection to the mp3 player would benefit I guess in regards to the noise you encountered.

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Heh... yeah the heating vent is a little bummer. I was going to have smaller cutouts on both sides - but the silver amp was soooo thick that I didn't think much air would go over it. This blows right down on the amps and cools really well. Maybe I can get a carbon fiber grill ;)

Abercrombie - It does sound great ! Boxing the doors would help a little, asI can feel the door panels move under real heavy mid-bass (front woofers). That only happens beyond showoff volumes anyway... and it would be very hard to do. I can set it loud enough to hear perfectly clearly on the highway with all windows open and it's still very tight.

Kaede - the dynamat definately made a difference. I ranout (36sqft) before the floor, and it could probably use a little there, but the side panels were the worst (very big flat sheetmetal peices). I only really hear road noise over coarse pavement with the 18" wheel/tires. Not bad though. It would be interesting to do an A-B comparison to a stock one to see how much quieter the dynamat made it. The doors sound cool when the close though - thud [8D]

Cutenoua - I'm definately into the USB player! I would buy the current kenwood double-din, except the connector comes out the front. I want it inback so I can put in a hard drive in the glovebox. Pioneer has a good one, but only single-din. Also, they all (alpine and eclipse too) are fairly new with the usb controlling software, and I think the next generation will be improved (delay times with big libraries, sorting, playlists, etc). I definately want a double din for looks, but don't want a touch screen (or to pay $1000 for dvd/nav)... kind of limits the choices. Maybe next year though...

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Good Job!

I'm also in the process of upgrading the sound sytem of my outlander.

Where could I purchase the stereo console that you used(double din) and if you don't mind me asking how much did you pay for it?

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Unfortunately it's the stock NAV faceplate and it costs a LOT. $150 or so. It was the only thing I could come up with, without very skilled fiberglass fabrication.

It's apparently hard to find the part in the mits parts diagrams, but Tim at http://www.mitsuaccessories.com/ found it for me and has a decent price (compared to the OEM list... it's still wayy too expensive!)

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Hey, if you end up replacing that Naki headunit with a 2din, Ill buy it off you, I got CD400 with a busted faceplate. Nice install, came out clean. Nice choice in components too.

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wow $150 for that? that's already almost half the price of a new headunit.

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i paid 230 canadian for mine. its ridiculous but the only option we have.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

Hey chili, did you notice if the factory headunit had RCA outputs or if it also had the aux input at the back of the unit?

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

I would also liked for this to be answered, I poped that cover in the back of my arm rest but the wires were not there(LS, with base stereo), my only hope now is that there is some kind of aux input in the unit it self.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

There is no aux input @ the back of the radio.I can say that for sure because mine is removed.It sounded really bad anyway.[:o]

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

[&o]awww , well thanks for clearing that up, at least I dont have to tare things up only to get decillusioned.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

Did you noticed if there were rca outputs? :eek:

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

The amplifier circuit is a TDA 7563 4X27W.

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RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

No RCA's in or out. The connector behind the center panel ends up feeding the wiring harness, but nothing that doesn't require splicing.

Cutienoua... can you tell enough about the circuit layout to tell if there are line-level outputs on the connectors - or only the speaker level outs? It would save someone buying the cleansweep or 3sixty if they could splice into line levels.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

I'm suprised you don't have the wires in the console... but anyway, you could still splice into the wiring harness at the head unit to create your own RCA inputs. The head unit should be the same.

If you look back through my pictures, there is a kind of crappy picture of a closeup of a wiring harness. I can't see the pics here from work.. but I think it's good enough to determine which of the harnesses it is. The wires are orange, red, and brown. You could splice RCA's into that for aux in.... just do some trial and error to figure out which one is ground (I only remember it isn't brown).

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

just buy an inline converter, theyre like 20 or 30 bucks and you splice in to your rear spaker wire and ground it and just plug the RCA's into it and the amp and you have bass.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

It is possible to find that line-level output,but it will require soldering and is not something everybody should try.Plus this radio is so bad,I don't think willworth the trouble.Unless I'll start a business out of this!:)

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

I have the normal stereo in my Outlander, but not the RCA connectors in the centre console (UK model)

When I hold down the CD button for a second or two on the radio it goes to AUX on the display. Does this mean that somewhere there is a way of getting an input into the stereo. I'm pretty sure that Mitsubishi wouldn't have fitted a different radio for the UK Market. If the RCA lead on the US version goes straight into the terminal plug on the back of the Unit then wouldn't it just be a simple question of finding out what pins are used and adding a lead with the right pins into the terminal block with a a 3.5mm stereo plug at the other so I can plug in my MP3 player, or is that too simple?

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

Ash - yes... see my post 3posts back on this thread... that's about the most info I can offer.

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

ok heres my problem, i cant find a proper wiring harness for the 07, do you have one and where did you get it??

RE: Aftermarket stereo install finished (56kkiller)
 

Uh... yeah... that's a problem. The good part is that it won't cost you $150+ like the dash panel did!

There's not one available at this point. I just tinned some wires and shoved them into the stock plug - then taped them off good. You could splice and solder if you were more energetic.

Black, red and yellow are the main power wires on the stock plug. I think red is switched with ignition and yellow is full time 12v BUT CHECK WITH A MULTIMETER cuz I'm not positive. I didn't do dimming, phone mute, antenna, or any of that stuff, so cant' help you there.

I can't imagine with that fat mother of a sub wire that you plan to re-use stock speaker wiring (they are very small gauge for the stock 15w speakers), but if you are - I think I have pictures or notes that I can dig up the colors for those... just lemme know.

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Hi CHili_g

Very interesting work and thank you for your post !
I will make a similar work to install my Pioneer Avic-X1 in the end of next week.
About the radio connection, how did you do it ? Did you make an adapter from the original wires ? for the power ? for the speakers ? How did you do ?

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About the antenna wire, does the wire is a standard format to plug into an autoradio ? did you use an adapter or did you modify the wire ?

I will install my Pioneer avic-x1 next week-end in my outlander 07, i have just finish to convert the double-din Navigator dash element to install a simple din autoradio....

RE: Speakers
 

Lekamikaze, I just heavily tinned some decent gauge wires, and stuck them into the factory connectors. Just try a few scrap peices of wire until you find a good size to fit snug, then tape everything up tight when finished.

The antennae was a standard shape to fit my aftermarket head unit - and I get pretty good reception too.