Ya, one would assume the title says it all. Gs-T all the way. But I'm not 100% sure now.
A guy i know has a Civic 2 door with a B20 swap claiming he has 210 horsepower. I'm not sure what he has under the hood.

He's saying that he'll whip me because he's got 210 horses and weighs a lot less. But wouldn't that be a disadvantage? Weighing so little with too much horsepower = wheels spinning? I dono. I just want to know what you guys think before i actually offer to race him. Think it'll be a close race? I'm kill him? He'll kill me?

Here's the thing I don't understand though. He states that he has 210 HP but when doing a little research the most HP i could find in a B20 motor (B20A, B20b, etc) was around 170ish hp. Where is the other 40 comming from? The only thing that I can think of is it's turboed. ::Shrugs:: I'm gonna have to ask.



His engine:
http://myspace-582.vo.llnwd.net/00416/28/55/416705582_l.jpg

His Car:
http://myspace-465.vo.llnwd.net/00469/56/40/469140465_l.jpg

the 210HP motor is the K20a I think from the RSX S and the SI hatch. which is only running those cars into the 14.5 range. some modded rsx s with full exhuast header and all intake and hondata tuning run 13.9s so it is still not very fast. I think it should be close but I also think you should win. your car is 210HP stock and you have exhaust and intake?? any other mods for you?

TheEngineers Talon AWD TSi kept dead even with my EVO he had catback ehaust intake BOV upper IC pipe and 15PSI and my EVO was bone stock and that runs about a 14.0.

I'm pretty sure i can beat him. I've got exhaust, BOV, Larger ICP, Intake, and i removed the Wastgate Selenoid Thingy so i'm running 1-2 psi more than stock which is 10-12 right? He def doesn't have the K20. I was reading his myspace and he specifically said B20 So i'm not sure how much horses he's actually running. I'm gonna find out though.

Oh, and by the way, I took off that mitsu emblem like you said, and yes, it does look a whole lot better.

He's saying that he has (his words) "a rebuilt head, port and polish, etc"
stock motor's got 170. What do you think?

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He's saying that he has (his words) "a rebuilt head, port and polish, etc"
stock motor's got 170. What do you think?

I say it is BS.... No honda rebuilds the head before doing other mods...does he have exhaust header intake Hondata ect ect??

I know he has exhaust, i can see it in the picture. the rest ::Shrugs::

Honda CR-V Specifications (1999 model)
Dimensions

Engine

2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder
Horsepower:
146 HP
Torque:
133 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm

HERE are the specs for a 1999 honda crv w/a B20.I knew it was not 170 hp for the B20,i knew it was in the 140 range.Even if it does have the work done as stated that not going to put it anywhere near 210 hp.Figure the 99-00 civic si coupe has 160 stock,and is good for 15.7-16.0 1/4 mile.I think its going to be a pretty easy kill for you.good luck man

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Honda CR-V Specifications (1999 model)
Dimensions

Engine

2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder
Horsepower:
146 HP
Torque:
133 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm

HERE are the specs for a 1999 honda crv w/a B20.I knew it was not 170 hp for the B20,i knew it was in the 140 range.Even if it does have the work done as stated that not going to put it anywhere near 210 hp.Figure the 99-00 civic si coupe has 160 stock,and is good for 15.7-16.0 1/4 mile.I think its going to be a pretty easy kill for you.good luck man

99-00 civics are a little faster than that. My V6 3G got walked by one pretty bad and I was more modded than him

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99-00 civics are a little faster than that. My V6 3G got walked by one pretty bad and I was more modded than him


Yoy had a spyder though right?well i wanted a 99-00 blue si more than anyone when they came out(still want one actually)so i studied the car to a "T" and all the mags i read had the car doing between a 15.7-16.0,i have seen mildly modded ones at the track in the low to mid 15's so thats why i said the times i said.[sm=trust_me.gif]

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99-00 civics are a little faster than that. My V6 3G got walked by one pretty bad and I was more modded than him


Yoy had a spyder though right?well i wanted a 99-00 blue si more than anyone when they came out(still want one actually)so i studied the car to a "T" and all the mags i read had the car doing between a 15.7-16.0,i have seen mildly modded ones at the track in the low to mid 15's so thats why i said the times i said.[sm=trust_me.gif]

Yes and the Spyder stock is like 15.6ish and I had CAI and Invidia Catback he had only intake and the thing pulled at least 2 cars on me within a 50-80 MPH race. I read somewhere they run high 14s very easily and I have seen some RSXs hit high 13s on bolt ons

that makes me feel like a chum running a 15.1 in my spyder[sm=dontgetit.gif] i have a 98 gst,intake 3" turbo back,fmic.maybe it was the 19"s.

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that makes me feel like a chum running a 15.1 in my spyder[sm=dontgetit.gif] i have a 98 gst,intake 3" turbo back,fmic.maybe it was the 19"s.

holy ya Man we have a member on only and intake and MBC who ran his spyder at a 14.8 and with exhaust you have to be making more power than him since intake does nothing really exhaust hides it all

I mean im a good driver,i ran it 3 times first 15.3, second 15.1, third 15.2, i let a friend drive it 2 times,first 15.3, second 15.1.So at the very minimum its a consistant car.2 drivers,5 runs all within .2 of a second. Well next time i go im gonna run the stock wheels with the best tires i can think of to run(maybe nitto555r) and if i can hook up what do you estimate i will run?I mean with the 19's on there,it would spin 3 gears through,tried launchin at 1500 and it spun 2 gears,i couldnt do anything about traction.[sm=headbang.gif]

well I know of the one member I spoke of before that ran 14.8 with stock tires and rims and only intake and MBC. you should atleast see a 14.5 if not better

The stock b20 in the crv isnt vtec. if he has the vtec head thats about 25-30 extra horses. from the looks of the picture he has an after market intake manifold and possible throttle body which is good for about 10-15 horse, intake test pipe? header exhaust about 15 horse. thats about 190-205 horse power on that car if he has vtec. he weighs probably 400-500 pounds less than you do. if he has good tires and a limited slip you might lose. The motor sitting in the picture doesnt have vtec though.

idk dude i just raced a 97 Integra GSR w/ intake and catback (i think, he didnt say but thats what i heard) in my 97 gst spyder w/intake, 3in turbo back, hks bov, upper ic pipes,ACT 2100 clutch, 17in rims 225/45 tires, and MSD wires. Traction was my weakness so at the lauch he pulled me by a car length but i caught him in 3rd gear. The second race i got a good launch and walked him by 2 car lengths. So you should take him if you can launch it right.

damn, diggin' up some old posts. lol.
i still have yet to see/race this kid. probably scared hahaha

idk man i think it would b a close race if his isnt turbo then u might just pull away just race him and see how it goes, good luck lol

Well then race him poot so we can finally see who won, lol.

well what if its a Frankenstein B20?? like he mixed it up with a B16 to make it a poor mans type R?

If you are running larger tires than stock, with no mods you will be running a slower quarter mile time because it takes more torque to run a larger tire the same revolution. With high spinning and little torque motors you need to get the final gearing up higher than stock or make more torque than stock to go faster with larger diameter tires than stock size.

Before I bought my Evo I had a 99 Civic Si and was going to do a 210 horsepower B20 swap. So, if he's putting out 210 horsepower and doesn't have a turbo there are two ways, if he's telling the truth, he may be getting that much horsepower. One, he swapped the B20 head with the higher flowing B16 head and ECU tune, or two he got a really expensive port and polish job on the head he has which I doubt.

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The stock b20 in the crv isnt vtec. if he has the vtec head thats about 25-30 extra horses. from the looks of the picture he has an after market intake manifold and possible throttle body which is good for about 10-15 horse, intake test pipe? header exhaust about 15 horse. thats about 190-205 horse power on that car if he has vtec. he weighs probably 400-500 pounds less than you do. if he has good tires and a limited slip you might lose. The motor sitting in the picture doesnt have vtec though.


Keep in mind all these factory numbers are not to the wheels. Even if he does have all this done, you can count on a 15-20% paracitic loss in both tq and peak hp, so the MAX he's running is between 164-175.25hp at the wheels. Basically, he's got enough to run with you back when your car was stock. With the mods you've listed, a good reaction time and some sticky tires, you are going to WASTE him.