stupid question
#11
02-21-2006, 05:49 PM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: Jeffisdecentttttt
thanks pal
thanks pal
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#12
02-21-2006, 06:00 PM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: Sanguinius
can ya blame him?
can ya blame him?
#13
02-22-2006, 11:18 AM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: brandoN^gsT
No problem buddy.
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ORIGINAL: Jeffisdecentttttt
thanks pal
thanks pal
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#14
02-22-2006, 12:38 PM
RE: stupid question
No problem *******! haha
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
#16
02-22-2006, 02:47 PM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: Jeffisdecentttttt
I dont get it.
ORIGINAL: clipse_05
No problem *******! haha
No problem *******! haha
I dont get it.
#17
02-22-2006, 07:45 PM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: clipse_05
No problem *******! haha
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
No problem *******! haha
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
you should also note that crankwalk will ONLY appear in manuals. autos will not have that problem
#18
02-23-2006, 12:36 AM
RE: stupid question
ORIGINAL: eclipsed4u
just so you know, the 420a has no more of a chance to crankwalk than an LS1 or any other engine.
you should also note that crankwalk will ONLY appear in manuals. autos will not have that problem
ORIGINAL: clipse_05
No problem *******! haha
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
No problem *******! haha
--but seriously. The 420A was put into many different cars such as the 95-99 talon non turbo, 95-99 eclipse non turbo, avenger, and some other dodge cars. Their are positives and negatives to both motors such as with every other motor.
420A pros...
Less likely to "crankwalk" unlike the 7-bolt 4g63 that comes with the 95-99 eclipse turbo.
Finding a car with a 420A motor will usually be much cheaper than buying one with a 4g63.
420A cons...
Weaker internals than the 4g63t in all generations of the 4g63 (ex. 89-99 eclipse gst/gsx... 6 or 7-bolt).
A car with a 420A is almost impossible to swap a 4g63 motor into it, because both cars have a different chassis.
Fuel management is your main downfall when it comes to turboing this motor.
4g63 pros...
Power is more easily made on this platform due to stronger internals and more common fuel management.
More parts are available to modify this engine compared to the 420A.
4g63 cons...
The 7-bolt is prone to crankwalk which absolutely kills the motor and most people solve it with a 6-bolt swap from a 1st generation eclipse/talon turbo
I'm sure there are more but that is the main one that I could think of.
All in all, the 4g63t 6-bolt is the best eclipse/talon motor out there and they are easier to make power with. However, if you have the 420A and turbo it, you will be much more original!
you should also note that crankwalk will ONLY appear in manuals. autos will not have that problem
I think crank walk can accurr in 7Bolt 4G63s no matter if its auto of manny. It is an oiling problem with the 7bolt block in the 2G eclipses (4G63 7bolt block)
#19
02-23-2006, 12:41 AM
RE: stupid question
OMG!!!!!!!! Why don't you explain to me why only manuals have the crank walk (bad oiling/journals) problem then. That is so far from the truth! It may be less likely to happen.....I cant believe CW is be brought up again.