who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

I was surfing the internet the other day and found this new co2 system called cryo2 from what I have read it sounds like a pretty cool system. has anyone else heard about this or know someone that is using it. I am thinking of getting a few of the cryo2 parts but I want to know what you guys think.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

Well there is a BIG difference between CO2 and nitrous. First off go ahead and try injecting CO2 into your engine I garauntee it'll lose EVERY race you try to run like that. CO2 is a good cooling agent though. Nitrous when injected to the engine actually (Correct me if I'm wrong I MAY have this backwards) splits up into component parts and bonds with oxygen to give the engine more to burn. Thus the need for the higher powered injectors and pump to supply more feul to keep the engine from melting itself down in that method. CO2 (IMO of course) is a MUCH safer route to take due to the fact that you're merely supercooling things instead of injecting anything into the engine. CO2 never enters the block and can be used on the radiator, intercooler, and intake as well as other areas as well. Those would prolly be the main things you'd be looking at using it on though. Again these are merely my own opinions though I believe I got how the nitrous works right (Someone please do correct me if I'm wrong). Hope this helps.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

Nitrous oxide actualy in n20 nitrogen 2 oxygen what will happen is it is injected into a superheated area which makes the n20 seperate and dump more oxygen into the chamber making a biger explosion in the piston chamer resulting in hp gain and higher compression.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

I also read something somewhere about the N2O bonding with the gas molecules as well. (I was fairly close in my explanation though so :P )

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Just to clear somethings up. I know what n2o does And I know that co2 can't replace it. I was woundering if anyone has used the cryo system on there car and how well did it work. that is all.

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all that does is lower intake temps, and the gains are minimal, except to raise your self esteem because u ahve a big ass bottle sitting next to you. A similar and much more effective approach would be a water/alcohol injection kit, which would not only lower intake temps, but raise fuel octane and allow you to run higher boost with less fuel.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

one this it could be used for is a intercooler cooler. i have sen them for n20 buy co2 would bee alot cheeper.

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all u need to cool the intercooler is a water nozzel to spray the outside, and that could be made for $15

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ok water is fine but co2 or n20 would cool it to lower temps which means more dense intake air. sure a water system would work but for how cheep co2 is why not use it?
oh an i almost forgot it would look bad a white mist where the intercooler is. put some neon lights in ther and you got some pimp looking ****.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

I just liked the CO2 cuz it's cheaper and I don't plan on injecting anything into my Sentra's engine. I dunno if I can spray with a turbo I've gotten mixed reactions on that so I think I'll stick w a turbop only on my 'clipse.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

i kno theres people out there that gotta have theyre 'neon' lights but in my opinion that would look rediculous

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

also, co2 cheap? its over $300, $15 sounds better to me...

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$300 for what? and $15 for what? Filling the bottle?It CAN'T be $300 for the bottle unless that's a REALLY big bottle I know people that use it for paintball. They wouldn't keep paying that much to charge thier CO2 tanks. You might wanna check your sources. I think someone's trying to rip you.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

no not $300 for filling a bottle, $360 to buy the co2 kit. Or $15 to make a water sprayer for your intercooler, free for the water..

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

ok i pantball and it would cost $100 max. here is what it would take. a bottle about $50 for a medium sized tank. than another $50 for a remote line used for paintball 50' and some pressure fittings and 1 valve. might cost a little more if you go steel or copper line. but in the end it would cool the air id say about 2-3x what water would.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

Negative ghostrider. Water has huge cooling abilities. Do some research on water/alcohol injection and you will agree.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

I have the co2 intercooler sprayer on my EVO right now and it kicks ass. I've road tested both n2o and co2 and I can't tell a difference (besides price).

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

if you were to spray water directly onto the intercooler compaired to co2 co2 is way colder considering it sits i the lines and bottle at
-200 degrees below zero. so if they both were sprayed on the intercooler which was the orignal conversation yes co2 will be colder.


straight from a website explaining water injection
"A water injection system works similarly to a fuel injection system only it injects water instead of fuel. Water injection is not to be confused with water spraying on the intercooler's surface, water spraying is much less efficient and far less sophisticated."
http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/WaterInjection.html

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

But consider what you said about the water/alchohol system the key thing being alcohol. You have to compare boilng points and at what temp each chemical will flash at.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

im going to point something out that is a lot more general than the pointless arguing about which is better. 99% of people dont need any kind of spraying. A simple front mount will cool well enough for almost any application. The fastest eclipses out there still dont usually have sprayers, its more of a 'neat gadget' to put on your car than a necessity. And for those that just have to have it I find it much more logical to just have a cheap effective water/alcohol sprayer, than to have an expensice $360 kit that you have to go find a place to fill up at all the time.

RE: who needs no2 when you can have co2
 

$100 and any suba or welding shop can fill it.