Prophet, you say that JL are good but overpriced...is there a cheaper brand that sounds just as good then? And another thing, I mostly listen to rock music, no rap, so isnt lower actually better? 10's over 12's? And as for the box i was thinking about the HO series by JL, any opinions on them? Thanks for any help you can give.

 

Yes get 10" subs if you listen to rock, because the larger the sub it won't be able to keep up with the rock music. Rockford, and Alpine will be much cheaper and are pretty good quality, but if you want a really good system I would get like 2 10" jk w3s or w7s, but that will cost a ton for w7s.

 

Unless someone has a reason not to check out ebay. I found some people who sell some B-stock subs that have like scratches and stuff just enough so they couldn't sell them in a retail store, most of them still come with factory warranties and they are dirt cheap. I'm not a big sub person but I've always liked JL, def a little pricy though.

 

12's will hit the lower freq. then a 10 will. If you willing to stick with the jl price I would suggest the W6's because there a little cheaper then the W7's and since it sounds like you don't really want the low end bass then get the W6's because you will end up paying a W7 price tag and not use the full potential of the sub.

If your looking for a good quality SQ sub I would suggest the Elemental Designs kv series. Alot of happy customers... outstanding customer service.... reasonably priced subs with outstanding output. Sound quality is amazing. I am a die hard fan and if you choose to go the ED route let me know and I can help you choose a great system.
http://www.edesignaudio.com/

 

Those look interesting, I may have to keep that in mind when I look to change my system around.

 

I'd wether call them Rockford ****gate.

 

Ive had some awesome success with Kenwood and most of all Audiobahn, find urself a Kenwood and BETTER YET Audiobahn dealer... There is nothing out there better than Audiobahn so if you talkin quality.. go with Audiobahn... Im plenty happy with what i got goin in my car... I have a KDC-X969 Kenwood Excelon Head-Unit, 2 800 Watt Kenwood amps, 2 12" Kenwood Typhoon subs in a vented box that are both bridged to their own amp, an EFX 1 fared cap (Yes i know i need another one) and Scosche 4 ga. power and ground wires... oh and Scosche RCA's... So, whatcha think? it hits really hard and im not really fully powering my subs because it gets to be too much bass and you cant hear the music... but i want to take it somewhere to have it tested to see how many DB's i can hit... Oh and is it tru that if you have rattles they wont test it? I have quite a bit of rattles that i need to take care of.. im thinkin ima go with Accumat.. they seem like a pretty good company..

 

http://www.termpro.com/asp/competito...titor_ID=38487

Here's my old dBDRA profile, although I think its probalby going to expire any day now.

 

Dragon, I will give you that Kenwood makes great head units. Alot of the Kicker pros I compete with seem to go with either Kenwood or Panasonic units. As far as Audiobahn goes, I guess I would like to see what kind of information you have on them that they are so great.

Audiobahn has always been a weird company to me personally. They are very generous when it comes to money to put towards bigger car audio events (i.e. Oklahoma Showdown 2004 was one my brother was involved in last year), but no one really runs any of their stuff. Same goes for Kenwood subs and amps.

As far as your comment regarding running your car through the lanes at a show or something, I would definately encourage it. And no, you should be able to run your car through the lanes for SPL competition regardless of how much your car rattles. The only reason that would be counted against you is if you were to enter a SQ competition.

Just remember to make sure what they are using to measure the car with (pressure sensor, mic, etc.) The two most popular ones today are the Termlab (a pressure sensor which is the official brand of all the major car audio competition sanctions) and the AudioControl (a mic).

Also remember that not all of them read the same. There are some cheap brand mics out there that register my car at close to 160 db! lol. The average AC runs me just shy of 148 and the TL usually runs my car anywhere from 5-12 db lower depending on whether or not my car is on or off, I'm running on the dash or outlaw, etc.

Sorry if I started speaking another language on you.

 

No, i understood what u were saying.. thats crazy how much of a difference the different "sensors" range from on ur system... So what are you running? And about Audiobahn... i dunno i guess its one of those personal preferences.. I really love their stuff. My dad is running 4 Audiobahn Linear Compression 12" subs, 2 rack mount amps powering the 4 subs, a 100 band Audiobahn EQ and another amp powering the regular speakers... Also has the new Kenwood Excelon DVD Player Touch Screen Head unit with the Removable faceplate and 32 Fared Audiobahn Capacitor and of course an extra battery... (Optima Yellow Tops) Got an Xbox in back with a flip down screen... heres some pics of the work in progress... car is Alot further now and is almost complete.. havent got a chance to get any updated pics but youll get the Idea... Keep in mind that this is a 96 Camaro...

[IMG]local://upfiles/2507/E72F50E97ABB4A749922CF28EA41A687.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]local://upfiles/2507/DBC9424EBD404298934DFBF578000571.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]local://upfiles/2507/F6EE2E18187B49D88D3C7BB7D775C7E3.jpg[/IMG]