Galant ES, Engine Stalls at Idle, 4cyl SOHC
#1
Galant ES, Engine Stalls at Idle, 4cyl SOHC
Hello,
I have a 2000 Mitsubishi Galant ES with 4cyl, SOHC engine with 79,000 miles
It stalls while idling but only while warming up as I will describe here. It idles fine for the first couple of minutes after starting with a cold engine. Then stalls while idling for about the next 10-15 minutes. Then after a while idles fine again. Otherwise engine runs very smooth at all speeds, except stalls at idle as described above. I can keep the engine from stalling at idle by pressing gas pedal slightly to keep RPM's to just under 1,000. Also, when engine stalls it is smooth, no jerky motion from engine. It's as if someone turned off the key.
Engine always starts immediately when starter engaged (at any time).
No OBD / DTC codes set. Spark plugs and air filter replaced ~6mos ago with no problems until this week. Has integrated fuel pump filter that factory says should not need to be changed.
I live in coastal San Diego with a very mild climate. Outdoor temperatue in 70's F.
Does anyone have any ideas on diagnosing? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Robert
I have a 2000 Mitsubishi Galant ES with 4cyl, SOHC engine with 79,000 miles
It stalls while idling but only while warming up as I will describe here. It idles fine for the first couple of minutes after starting with a cold engine. Then stalls while idling for about the next 10-15 minutes. Then after a while idles fine again. Otherwise engine runs very smooth at all speeds, except stalls at idle as described above. I can keep the engine from stalling at idle by pressing gas pedal slightly to keep RPM's to just under 1,000. Also, when engine stalls it is smooth, no jerky motion from engine. It's as if someone turned off the key.
Engine always starts immediately when starter engaged (at any time).
No OBD / DTC codes set. Spark plugs and air filter replaced ~6mos ago with no problems until this week. Has integrated fuel pump filter that factory says should not need to be changed.
I live in coastal San Diego with a very mild climate. Outdoor temperatue in 70's F.
Does anyone have any ideas on diagnosing? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Robert
#3
RE: Galant ES, Engine Stalls at Idle, 4cyl SOHC
Last time (see above) I had this idle stalling problem the car started running great by itself after a few days. I suspect the computer adjusted and compensated for the problem. Recently, the battery got drained again. Once I resolved the battery problem, the car would not idle after warming up. It would idle cold and then after it warmed up it would stall every time at idle speeds. I tried the same approach as last time and drove it for a couple of days but the stalling continued.
I looked again all over the Internet and found all sorts of complicated and expensive solutions. Most of them were to start replacing parts without testing for broken parts. However, for troubleshooting I usually try the simple fixes first. I found a great comment from "galant2000" at http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t295165.html. The inside of the throttle body had black gunk just as described by "galant2000".
I simply cleaned the throttle body and the car now runs/idles great. I followed the directions in my Haynes shop manual. I used a throttle body cleaner on a rag to wipe off the black gunk. The manual says to be sure to cleaner that is compatible with oxygen sensors and catalytic converters (says so on the can). The manual also says to be sure to NOT clean the Throttle Position sensor or Idle Air Control motor. It also says careful not to get the cleaner or any other debris in the two square holes at the bottom of the throttle body. I just carefully plugged these holes with a clean rag and put the cleaner on another rag and wiped all the black gunk out. This took less than half an hour.
I hope this helps.
Robert
I looked again all over the Internet and found all sorts of complicated and expensive solutions. Most of them were to start replacing parts without testing for broken parts. However, for troubleshooting I usually try the simple fixes first. I found a great comment from "galant2000" at http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t295165.html. The inside of the throttle body had black gunk just as described by "galant2000".
I simply cleaned the throttle body and the car now runs/idles great. I followed the directions in my Haynes shop manual. I used a throttle body cleaner on a rag to wipe off the black gunk. The manual says to be sure to cleaner that is compatible with oxygen sensors and catalytic converters (says so on the can). The manual also says to be sure to NOT clean the Throttle Position sensor or Idle Air Control motor. It also says careful not to get the cleaner or any other debris in the two square holes at the bottom of the throttle body. I just carefully plugged these holes with a clean rag and put the cleaner on another rag and wiped all the black gunk out. This took less than half an hour.
I hope this helps.
Robert
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RE: Galant ES, Engine Stalls at Idle, 4cyl SOHC
"Dude", Speaking of kinda useless. What value did your comments add???
I have a couple of comments:
- First in the future I would recommend that you actually read a post and understand it before you reply to it. This problem just happened last week. And it is still very relevant.
- Second, unless every Mitsubishi with the same throttle body has magically disappeared or suddenly has a newly adopted throttle body cleaning genie then my posting is completely applicable (even right now, even in a year from now) to anyone who may have a similar problem. It could save them time, money, and hassle. Guess what? Other people may have the same problem and could be helped by my latest posting. I suppose that trying to thank this forum for help in the past by posting a followup is too complicated for you. Are you really that simple?
I have a couple of comments:
- First in the future I would recommend that you actually read a post and understand it before you reply to it. This problem just happened last week. And it is still very relevant.
- Second, unless every Mitsubishi with the same throttle body has magically disappeared or suddenly has a newly adopted throttle body cleaning genie then my posting is completely applicable (even right now, even in a year from now) to anyone who may have a similar problem. It could save them time, money, and hassle. Guess what? Other people may have the same problem and could be helped by my latest posting. I suppose that trying to thank this forum for help in the past by posting a followup is too complicated for you. Are you really that simple?
#9
RE: Galant ES, Engine Stalls at Idle, 4cyl SOHC
Anytime the battery goes dead or is replaced you need to clean the Throttle Body. With a new battery the ECU thinks it has a clean TB and does not adjust for the carbon build up. Clean it with some Throttle Body cleaner (not Carbaratorcleaner or Brake cleaner)and a rag. After cleaning disconnect the battery for a few minutes. After that it should run and idle fine. If not it is probably the idle speed control motor.