ORIGINAL: Prophet


See.... you guys speak without even knowning the correct info. He has a 7G Galant 1994-1998. A DSM Galant built under the DSM flag with a DSM motor. No differnce then swapping a Eclipse 2g 420a with a 4G63t.

ORIGINAL: slow420a


BTW dsm disolved in 1994 so technically any mitsubishi made after 94 is considered a mitsubishi not a dsm, but there are refered as dsm's because they still shared the same motor, name, and body charcters. Also my motor is a chrysler motor, not a mitsu. My car is far from a dsm. Lastly the swap is a waste of time is cheaper to boost the 420a than to swap it out.... hint hint.

ORIGINAL: eclipsed4u


my bad....i couldn't remember if the 8G started in '97 or '98. i stand correct and withdraw all of my comments.

ORIGINAL: TheAdvocate

Thers a kid that lives by me and he has a 1g eclipse with about $11,000 under the hood and is pushing around 450+ hp... Now personally, I don't like the looks of the 1g eclipses but for anybody to stick that much money and have a car that can do what his can, I give respect for... I almost bought a GTZ a few months back, but it was for more of a family car (with looks and little more go) but I just don't see putting the money that your talking about putting into this car, when its still a Galant... Sure you will have a sleeper, b/c no one looks at the galants as racers.. But is it really worth sticking that much money into a Galant? Do you like the body style of the galant that much over any of the other cars out there?

I guess i just don't get where ur comin from. And theres a reason why you don't see many like them out there...

Would you put 14" rims ur car? No b/c, it just doesnt look good!

ORIGINAL: Prophet
Where talking about taking the head off of a 4G64 and swapping it out for the 4G63t or just finding a 6bolt 4G63t and drop it in. I would rather boost a 2.4L then a 2.0L.... or is the 420A 1.8L?

And we can get techincall as far as DSM.. MMMA... what have you. But if that little sticker in the engine bay says DSM then I consider it a DSM and in 1998 they where supposed to have been disolved not 1995. That is why you might still find DSM under some 2G Eclipes. And you talk with any Normal IL plant employees..... DSM is just a name......

Lastly I never told you to swap out your 420A. If you choose to boost it then good for you. If the next guy doesn't want to keep the 420A and wants to swap hit well good for him. Where talking about a 7G Galant that someone would like to boost and feels there making the right decision. Instead of knocking him for wanting to spend his money the way he see's fitWhy don't you offer some help. If you can't help then why post????

ORIGINAL: slow420a


The 4g64 is a 2.4l the 4g63 is a 2.0l.... You got it backwards. What you wnat to do is match up a 4g64 bottom end(2.4) with a 4g63 head(2.0) b/c the 4g63 is a dohc motor rather than a 4g64 sohc. Doing that will let you spool a turbo twice the size as the regular 4g64's will.

the 420a is a 2.0 liter. 4(4 cyls) 20(2.0 liters)a(first production model)

With the "hint hint" I was refering to the fact that he would benifit from boosting his 2.4 more than if he were to put in a 6 bolt 4g63 2.0. In high hp 4clys the biggest limitation is the lack of displacment.

For the dsm thing I suggest you read this before you start to throw facts around about stuff.

http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q...keandmodel.htm

"Diamond-Star Motors was officially dissolved in 1993 after the design and production tooling for the 1994 and 1995 cars was complete. Mitsubishi Motors continues to operate the plant formerly responsible for DSM cars under sole ownership."

Its very rare to find a dsm lable on the motor code of a 95, which I can promess with become a collector car in the future. No cars after 95 came with a dsm lable under the hood. For the record I said that dsm dissolved in 94... I was a year off.

ORIGINAL: Prophet


The 8G actually started in 1999-2003. Shares the same motor as the 3G Eclipse from 2000-2005.

ORIGINAL: slow420a

oic You worded it funny and I misread it, n/m then but ya the 4g63 would be stronger out of the box but that .4 makes a world of a difference. Compair the srt4 and and gst. Basically the same but that .4 makes her go.

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Stroked, Poked, Ported, and Prepped

There are a number of factors that can influence how a turbo responds on a particular engine. These factors include engine size, camshaft profiles, exhaust manifold design and fuel/ignition tuning. All other factors being equal, a larger engine will provide a greater supply of exhaust energy to drive the turbine section of the turbocharger. Quite simply, a 2.4-liter engine will be able to spool the turbo to the desired boost level about 20 percent sooner than a 2.0-liter. If a 2.0-liter engine reaches "full boost" by 5000rpm with a particular turbo, a 2.4-liter engine will reach "full boost" at about 4150rpm. Since the 4G64 crankshaft measures 100mm, instead of 88mm (the original stroke of the 4G63), the displacement of the 4G64 engine is considerably larger. On the negative side, the long stroke of the 4G64 does limit rpm potential. Even with the best available bottom end components, exceeding 8000 rpm is not recommended on 4G64s, as average piston speeds are already buzzing at 5200 feet per minute at that rpm. Under 8000 rpm, the 9-to-1 forged pistons and Eagle connecting rods have no problem staying together.

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