"Possible Icy Roads".... argh!
 

i am dreading the coming of winter and freezing temperatures. of course i know it is going to be freak'n COLD! and of course i know the roads will be slippery and icy!!!! but I DON'T NEED TO BE REMINDED EVERY FREAK'N TIME I START MY OUTIE!!!!

does anybody know how to DISABLE this annoying feature???

thanks in advance! oh, and be careful driving because my outie just told me the roads may be icy AGAIN!

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HAHAHAHA I dealt with it all last winter and it has started telling me again this winter. Its a safety feature built in that you would have to reprogram the computer to make it stop. Atleast it only dings on for 2 seconds and goes away, I kind of like it..... because it makes me take a look at the temp to check if its 32 or below. Then I know there could be black ice and I drive alittle more careful.

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For the next 5-6 months here in Calgary, it WILL be below freezing every day...I really don't need this annoying "feature" letting me know. I can feel it as soon as I step outside, thanks. Between the low temp announcement and the "TPMS service required" warning(winter wheels installed), I would almost like the info system disabled altogether.

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I really like this feature, I travel a lot from Miami, FL to NC.My last refuel isusually somewere in GA, so the temperatures there might be around60, driving non stop to NC some times you fail to notice that the temperature will drop about 30 degrees.

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I'm waiting for the sensor to warn me when there is a car coming towards me in the other direction and that I shouldn't hit it.

+1 that this is an annoying sensor that goes off every day here in VT!

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Mine goes off if the temp hits 36 deg or below...I dont think its that bad.

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I think it'd be much more useful it it at least put a tiny icon of a snowflake next to the temperature display (like the Navigation Info Display does) rather than beep at you every time then disappear completely...

As for disabling the entire info display, too bad it also has your fuel meter -- thats how they get ya! What about finding the speaker and just disabling all audible tones?

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For those of you that experience bellow freezing temps everyday I can see how this can be an anoyance. I was joking to my wife the other day about these warnings, I told her this car is so smart that it will give you a warning letting you know "you have crashed" if you ever got into an accident. LOL, she was amazed @ how advanced this technology was. hehehe.

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The magic number on mine is 37 degrees. If I park in the garage, it goes off about 3 minutes later..by that time, I'd know if it's icy or not.

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This "feature" is easily the worst. My Mini does it too, and it's usually about 5 minutes into my drive. When I hear that chime, my heart always skips a beat thinking something is wrong. Both the Mini and the XL-7 do it, and it's always driven me nuts. Like I need my car to tell me it's cold outside. If someone can figure this one out - super duper.

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The magic number is 37. I dont know how they figured out 37 when water freezes at 32.

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Likely a team of 10 physics majors studying for 6 months came up with the magic number based on some combination the temperature sensor's accuracy (including accuracy based on putting it right by a heat radiator) and the difference from air temperature versus road's surface temperature (which may be colder, and thus still have ice). And yet they still failed to consider those of us who park in garages... If you factor that in, it should probably be something like 50-55 degrees F for the warning!

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And 10 lawyers, I'm sure!

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Ghee, I thought most of us (Including ppl in JaPan) have bridges right out of our garage/driveways which we know freezes before roads. So the warning is ample enuf for me.. Open Garage door, Start car, Pull forward to driveway, close garage door, pull off driveway onto bridge which will be slippery at 37 degrees, (make sure 4 wheel drive lock), Skate delicately over top of bridge hoping Anti Skid works well (Now in extreme sweet) going down opposite side of bridge, hit neighbors garbade can because of Black Ice, Now on solid non salted 38 degree road.

And just think, the neighbor is a cop!

Drive off safely before he gets out of house...
Repaint bumper for the 10th time... And repeat

Old

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I noticed it works like this for me...
Turn on car.
TPMS error come on.
Acknowledge with button.
Pull out of driveway.
Icy conditions warning comes on.
TPMS error comes back on.
Acknowledge with button.

I guess once an error gets raised, they all cycle through again or something.

On the happy side... snowy commute this morning and it really is rock steady.

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Im still waiting for the snow..

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my endeavor had a snowflake that would come up on the info screen when it was below freezing...but it would never make a noise or chime...

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I suppose it is somewhat useful when you're traveling for a longer period of time and the temperature drops

so there is no solution for disabling this... I got to say this is the most annoying vehicle I have ever owned, 2 months after I purchased it... i can't wait to get rid of it. I am looking for some method to re-program the ecu to turn off the damn traction control on start up and the tpms as well. I just want to get in a vehicle and drive, I don't want a vehicle taking over nor do need to be reminded that its cold out side, or that my tire pressure may be low (only because I have no sensors for winter). having to turn off the traction control and push a stupid little button every time i get into the outlander is RIDICULOUSNESS.

If I can find away to do this I will post it on here, I have recently purchased an ODB interface that will allow me to link up to my ecu, and I have a buddy who is a hardware programmer, so hopefully between the two of us, we will find a way to reprogram the ecu to turn off these annoying features

Way to bring a 5 year old thread back to life ;)

Buy any new car and see if it comes with traction control OFF when you start it. Let us know what you find.....

PS: nice name, you're an idiot

most new new vehicles i test drove had an easy way to turn off the traction control, press the button and it turned off, vs having to hold it in for 10 seconds to disable. I find its way to sensitive, it kicks in when I pull out into traffic in a hurry and the outlander bucks across lanes just like someone trying to drive a standard shift for the first time. It i could just simply push the button and it turn off it would be great, but that isn't the case, and it is very irritating. So even if I could set it to turn off at the push of the button that would be great.

The tpms system drives me nuts as well... i drove for the first time in some cold weather and the tpms system kicked in to notify me of low tire pressure. Fine and dandy, but to be notified every 5 mins on my 40 minute drive to work is a bit much. So if i don't get winter tires/rims with tpms I have to put up with that irritation every time I get into the outlander and look at that stupid notification every day for 6 months. My dealer can't seem to get pricing right on tpms sensors. parts desk says they are 100 each, service desk tells me 300 for a set of 4, and the staff are pretty much at the same desk.

so i am sorry if you think i am an idiot, but I am trying to find a solution to these everyday annoyances to make the outlander a bit less annoying in my life, until i can put it up for sale next spring and get clear of it and go back to a full size truck.

TPMS is part of owning a new car plain and simple. The govt is who you need to have beef with if you dont like it.

If you are putting on snow tires in October, then that means you must live in a cold region where 4x4 or AWD is needed. Putting it into 4WD Auto will greatly increase stability and traction as you are gunning it while pulling into traffic. In 2wd mode the Outlander (v6) has enough torque to constantly be spinning tires like you have described. Which then kicks in the ASC.

The Outlander's ASC (Active Stability Control) is not just a typical traction control system, hence why it takes a 3 second button push to disable it. I'm not going to type out the long description of how and why it works, you can use the "Search" for that.

Lastly, does the Outlander love alerts on the dash??? Yes. I guess your next vehicle (if not a full size truck) can be a nice Honda or Toyota, which then all your time disguested by alerts will be then used waiting on your car at the dealership due to recalls....

Honda to recall 268,000 SUVs in US: report - Yahoo! News Philippines
Toyota recalls 7.4 million vehicles for balky window switches in reversal | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos

just wondering but you are complaing that the tpms is working yet you risk a 40 minute commute when the tpms has already told you the pressure is low..?

sorry but when mine prompts me, ( only twice and both times were a slow leak) I get the heck to a station and fill it up. I definatley woudnt risk a potential flat.

Your also complaing that it takes 2 seconds longer to turn off the traction control then in other vehicles and that is unreasonable? The amount of times I have bumped that button with my knee, I am glad it it takes longer.

you might want to look into the ETACS programming thread. getting a reader wont' do much for you. They've found a Chinese device that can do programming.

I think you will find most new cars have this same issue. If you push and hold the info button for about two seconds at start up, you will not get the chime for the tpms, however you will still get the message. It doesn't bother me too much. You can always go ahead abd buy the tpms sensors and reprogram spring and fall. (That may sound like a hassle as well)

BTW, if your sensors go off in cold weather, it's probably due to your lack of maintaining tire pressure. You do realize that as the temperature drops, so does the tire air pressure!? Aluminum rims don't necessarily help this. Proper tire pressure can save you fuel.

Good Luck
Mark

I did find the thread on the programming of the ETACS and I've managed to find the software required. But like you say, I will need to get my hands on the actual programer instead of a reader. With any luck I will be able to turn off the tpms and have the traction control disabled on start up.

Yes i did risk a 40 min commute, because I knew that it was a cold morning and that my air pressure was down slightly due to the cold temps, and I did inspect my tires before i started my commute. I don't have the luxury of having a gas station near by. I am 40 mins away from the nearest gas station.

When i go to put my winter rims and tires on, that message is going to appear every time i get in and start the outlander. I refuse to pay over $2000 for tires/ rims/ and tpms sensors for my outlander at the dealer or anywhere locally, so i . I don't need to be reminded every time i start the car that my tire preasure is low when in fact i won't have sensors.

If I had been aware of all these notifications, and "features" of the outlander.. I would have never have bought it.

my previous truck had tmps and traction control, but all that would come on is a little tiny light in the dash, and the only time the TCS never kicked in once while i had it. There is just way too much technology in this rig. maybe i am too old school, but everyone got along fine driving for years with no tpms and traction control... ever watch top gear.. first thing those guys do with every ride.. turn off traction control.. If i wanted a car to do the driving for me.. I'll buy the Google car.. but i am a driver, i don't want to be the passenger when i am behind the wheel. I really can't wait to put it up for sale next year.. with it only being 4 months old, its just not justifiable to sell or trade it now, and probably the same situation next spring as well but it won't hurt as bad..

I love these arguments. "We never had this when I was young and we got along just fine!" "I got 12 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it!"... "We never had that darn penicillin when I was a kid, we just used sulfa drugs and look at me, I'm alive!"

If you hate your Outlander, sell it. Don't just come here and bitch that you hate it. As for the guys in top gear, well, when you take your Outlander to the track so you can drift it around corners in a perfectly predictable fashion, then sure, turn off your traction control. But if you listen to them, they ALWAYS turn the traction control back ON when they're driving off the track, because they know it makes for a safer drive.

Sell the thing and move to another forum. Please...Please

You will complain just the same unless you get yourself a junk from the past with a big engine, no brake and no steering.
Also I suppose with no seat belt since your a real man and you don't need that sissy safety device.