DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
This will only work with v109/2068
If you have a different version, let me know. atb O. You'll need to rename the file, obviously. Just remove the .txt extension and ope with winrar ( or whatever ). |
RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
As I was the 'beta tester' for this, I confirm it works with my MMCS :) DVD playback while the vehicle in motion now works, with no cutting of any wires, and no losing of any navigation functions!
Note: the patch is for the NR-261UM models. If you have the NR-261EM model, send it to Otaku so he can make a patch for you. Quick installation instructions: * Follow rcostin's instructions for removing and unlocking the hard drive here: https://mitsubishiforum.com/m_208034/tm.htm * Extract the RAR file in the above post * On the "HDD3" partition (the one with the file "Loading.kwi"), make a backup copy of the original loading.kwi and keep it in a safe place. * Execute the patch from the RAR file to patch the loading.kwi file. * Before reinstalling the hard drive back into the MMCS, disconnect the (-) battery cable for about 2 minutes. This is necessary to "cold" boot the MMCS to get it to load the new firmware. (pulling the appropriate fuse might also work). * Reconnect the battery cable and put the hard drive back in the MMCS. * Close the screen and turn the ignition key back to ACC or "ON". * You will see it do a version up, then a screen check. After a few moments it should restart and be back to normal operation. * Stick in a DVD and go for a test drive! |
RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
Hi brian or rcostin, got a few questions.
1. Is it OK to remove the drive without detaching the battery terminals? 2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive? 3. We attach the HDD back unlocked? |
RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
1. As long as the car is not started (MMCS not operate), you can remove the disk.
2. There is an executable patcher. you have to extract it in the same folder as loading.kwi, execute the patch (which modifies the loading.kwi file) and put back loading.kwi on disk 3. You may attach the disk back. The unit will lock it back. Unfortunately, to force reloading the OS (loading.kwi) you have to detach the MMCS from the battery for few minutes ...... ORIGINAL: rcpax Hi brian or rcostin, got a few questions. 1. Is it OK to remove the drive without detaching the battery terminals? 2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive? 3. We attach the HDD back unlocked? |
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Thanks for the quick reply. Kudos to you, brian, and Otaku.:)
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RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
Hi,
I have a different version. I've uploaded it here. Still waiting for my car :) All the best, Costin |
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I'll have a shuftie when I'm home from work.. :)
TBH, I'm surprised theres not an easier way to upgrade without all the kerfuffle of copying files to the harddrive.. How do normal, legitimate updates work ? atb O. |
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ORIGINAL: rcpax 2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive? Once we figure out how "normal" software updates work, our goal is to make the patch as simple as sticking in a CD. But for now, we have to do it the hard way... |
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What about this scenario:
Using a Linux SH4 bootable CD. In rc files it should unlock disk, make checkings, copy the loader.kwi file, eject CD, and restart the MMCS .... Could it be so simple ? Need to check. Costin |
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Unfortunately, embedded system's don't tend to boot that way. We're at the mercy of the bootloader, which is located on a disk-on-chip or flash memory or something similar. But theres nothing to say that we can't replace the bootloader with a custom one, then boot linux off it :)
I think it'd be easier to see if the MMCS has any 'hidden way' to execute programs off a CD (i.e. trick it into thinking its a legitimate upgrade disc) and run the patch application that way (recompiled for SH4 CE of course). Thats why I'd like to get my hands on the new Map data update disc, which does in fact update the firmware, so we can see what the MMCS looks for when you insert a CD/DVD, then we can mimic the behavior. |
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ORIGINAL: brian360 Unfortunately, embedded system's don't tend to boot that way. We're at the mercy of the bootloader, which is located on a disk-on-chip or flash memory or something similar. But theres nothing to say that we can't replace the bootloader with a custom one, then boot linux off it :) I think it'd be easier to see if the MMCS has any 'hidden way' to execute programs off a CD (i.e. trick it into thinking its a legitimate upgrade disc) and run the patch application that way (recompiled for SH4 CE of course). Thats why I'd like to get my hands on the new Map data update disc, which does in fact update the firmware, so we can see what the MMCS looks for when you insert a CD/DVD, then we can mimic the behavior. I thought the map updates were just maps .. Ok - I need a used key.. :) atb. O |
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I still believe that the key is used only to mark a counter.
We shoult look over nk.exe because I don't think the bootloader needs to load the image DIRECTLY from CD/DVD. It may load loading.kwi from hdd and when nk.exe is started, THEN it looks for an available CD/PCCard/HDD to load something. Costin |
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ORIGINAL: rcostin I still believe that the key is used only to mark a counter. We shoult look over nk.exe because I don't think the bootloader needs to load the image DIRECTLY from CD/DVD. It may load loading.kwi from hdd and when nk.exe is started, THEN it looks for an available CD/PCCard/HDD to load something. Costin What makes you think that ? I'm not seeing anything in the kernel that would suggest it does anything to do with loading new firmware.. O. |
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I was just thinking the way the other units (not mitsubishi, but Toyota) is doing the upgrade .. without key. Was just a thought...
And they said that the key is used to allow only one upgrade. |
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ORIGINAL: rcostin I was just thinking the way the other units (not mitsubishi, but Toyota) is doing the upgrade .. without key. Was just a thought... And they said that the key is used to allow only one upgrade. Was a good thought .. I'm going back through the applications to see if there is a way to trigger an update from the GUI.. A copy of the update DVD might help ( or access to the file structure ). There may be something unique on it that indicates its an update.. Hmm.. Do you keep the update key ? atb. O. |
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I do not have an upgrade CD. Does anyone have such a CD ? It's good to know if it contains a loading.kwi file ......
LAST UPDATE Looks like the dealer has to make an update for my model, so, because I just got the car back today, I will go there tomorrow to see if the CD used will also contain an OS update. |
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I have aquestion about the procedure. At the end of he unlock procedure, it reads:
"10. Now you may turn off the computer. The disk is unlocked. You may use it with a Windows computer as a regular disk." What is the next step to loading the file you have created?Do I have to use the Navi HDD as a slave drive? I have a laptop that has only one HDD connection. Also, what program do I want to download for unlocking the HDD? I see no program named "unlockhd" Thanks! |
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ORIGINAL: rcostin Hi, I have a different version. I've uploaded it here. Still waiting for my car :) All the best, Costin Strangely ( or perhaps not so ) there appear to be very few differences. For example : in the bootloader, the only changes that aren't the textual strings are the hard-drive keys.. I'll have a patch for you shortly.. atb O. Ok - the code is basically the same for the patch, but its beer'o'clock.. I'll knock one together for you probably before the weekend.. Do your best to get a copy of the update cd - this messing around with hard drive swapping sounds annoying .. I'm sure theres a way to fool the system into thinking this is an authentic update. atb O. |
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ORIGINAL: evoracer I have aquestion about the procedure. At the end of he unlock procedure, it reads: "10. Now you may turn off the computer. The disk is unlocked. You may use it with a Windows computer as a regular disk." What is the next step to loading the file you have created?Do I have to use the Navi HDD as a slave drive? I have a laptop that has only one HDD connection. One thing you could do is boot a system like Knoppix with the unlocked hard drive attached, get the loading.kwi file off the drive and copy to a USB key, boot back with your original drive into windows, patch the loading.kwi file, then boot back with knoppix and the unlocked drive to copy the updated loading.kwi back to it.... ugh :) Or if you have a friend with a desktop PC you can just attach the unlocked drive using a 3.5" IDE to 2.5" IDE adapter on the secondary channel to do the patch in one quick operation. Or you could get a USB->2.5" IDE adapter and plug the unlocked drive into it and then to your laptop. Note that the USB adapter will NOT work with the unlock tool (below), but as soon as the drive is unlocked it'll work perfectly in Windows with it. Or if these options sound frightening, hopefully we'll have an easier solution figured out soon :) ORIGINAL: evoracer Also, what program do I want to download for unlocking the HDD? I see no program named "unlockhd" |
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Hrmm..
There appears to be a way to update from the configuration menu... O. |
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I went to dealer today. He made the update just by placing the CD in the unit. I tried to put the CD again and nothing happened. I thing the system looks for loading.kwi, checks the version and decides if it has to load it or not.
The update was for Gracenote Database and for the navi program (as they said to me) Costin PS The CD contains the following files: ALLDATA.KWI, 4K CDDB_VER_EN.TXT, 1K ECDDB.UDT, 38,260K ECDDB.UDX, 9,485K LOADING.KWI, 24,624K |
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Is the map update CD? So you did buy one? How about the "key" they were talking about?
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No map update but only program update and CDDB. And also, no key required and was for free.
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ORIGINAL: rcostin I went to dealer today. He made the update just by placing the CD in the unit. I tried to put the CD again and nothing happened. I thing the system looks for loading.kwi, checks the version and decides if it has to load it or not. The update was for Gracenote Database and for the navi program (as they said to me) Costin PS The CD contains the following files: ALLDATA.KWI, 4K CDDB_VER_EN.TXT, 1K ECDDB.UDT, 38,260K ECDDB.UDX, 9,485K LOADING.KWI, 24,624K With any luck I'll have a generic update cd this weekend.. I'm assuming either you or brian are up for testing it out ? ( seeing as you two seem to be the best qualified for recovering from a bad install ;) ) atb. O. |
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Thanks for the info rcostin! The alldata.kwi i've never looked at to even have a clue what its for. When I did a CDDB update the *.udx, udt, and txt files were used. Since you say it doesn't even register when you insert the CD a 2nd time, you're probably right that it checks the version and does nothing if not needed. Gives me much more info to test this with.
Would you mind sending me/otaku the new loading.kwi and alldata.kwi files? I/We wouldn't mind having the newest software version to play with. They've added a few new features that I'm interested in, and hopefully fixed the "touch beep" setting not being remembered bug. |
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I think the alldata.kwi stores a kind of index or versions ...
Just for you to know, my Outlander is the european version. Costin Later Edit I replaced the original hdd with another one, HITACHI Travelstar 30G, with an image of original hdd cloned on it. I am waiting to see if, after MMCS drains completely, the loading.kwi will be loaded from this disk. So far I noticed just a longer delay in loading the Music Server data... News, in an hour... |
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ORIGINAL: rcostin No map update but only program update and CDDB. And also, no key required and was for free. And please update us with the new HDD experiment. If it works, that could really open a big door for opportunities. |
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I loaded the data from original disk to the new one, using a cloning tool, but when I tried to boot up, the system asked about a system disk. Should I use some kind of a bootloader ? I will try tomorrow to create another clone. I forgot to mention that the disks are using some different structura (CHS).
Unfortunately, I don't know what part number was that because the guy in charge with the update came with a copy without any marks on it. I noticed now that the map has some more colors and some new icons for POIs appeared. I will try to get a "What's New" report for it. Cheers PS1 I forgot to mention that first time, rushing to test the new hdd, I used the old version of the system, that I made before update, and started the system before the complete MMCS drainage. Everything went ok except the navi. The music was fine, playing ok, all the buttons working well except the navi which did't started at all. This leads me to think that the new program, already loaded, was trying to find something on the old disk and was unable to load ....... PS2 I unlocked the hdds, again, both original and the test one. On the original, alldata.kwi is still the old one, but Loading.kwi is the NEW one... The ECDDB files are also copied in their partition. PS3 The clone disk doesn't work .... Maybe the system checks for an original TOSHIBA drive.... |
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I have followed with great interest this thread, my congratulations to you for this success and for sharing it. Just now I am unable to experiment on my Out due to my work, but in two weeks mas I will try to apply the patch to the MMCS. Good luck...
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ORIGINAL: brian360 (snipt l..., and hopefully fixed the "touch beep" setting not being remembered bug. I plan on trying this on Tuesday the 27th. That stupid beep-bug drives me insane [8D] (sorry to thread jack) |
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rcostin,
Thanks for the updates. I'll have to give it a go with a 2nd hard drive, too. I'd hate to see it checking the serial number of the hard drive or something. I haven't had a chance to try the test update CD that otaku prepared. I've been busy this past week and will likely be busy through the weekend still. After opening a ticket with Mistubishi customer service ~1 year ago, I found out earlier this week they said they have a patch, of course they say this is the *only* fix and it is just for me, yet they say it is ready and waiting at *any* dealer of my choice. I plan on trying this on Tuesday the 27th. |
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Pls keep us informed..
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ORIGINAL: brian360 Thanks for the updates. I'll have to give it a go with a 2nd hard drive, too. I'd hate to see it checking the serial number of the hard drive or something. I haven't had a chance to try the test update CD that otaku prepared. I've been busy this past week and will likely be busy through the weekend still. Hopefully otaku had time to prepare also a 261-EM version for EU :) |
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ORIGINAL: rcostin PS3 The clone disk doesn't work .... Maybe the system checks for an original TOSHIBA drive.... I should be able to tell you what the system is looking for this weekend ( or thereabouts ). O. |
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ISO file for NR-261UM is here
Name: MMCS-261UM.rar Size: 12,775,625 bytes MD5: 1cccf6d95d478fa64c6f4e24239ce8e5 Download archive, extract the files, burn the ISO file and read the README file inside the archive. Enjoy, Costin |
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File .rar downloaded....
CD created.... Later I try patch MMCS. . . |
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rcostin-Otaku, I have problem:
Start the process patch but in MMCS shows "Verificando disco" and nothing sucess... On CD burned only file "loading.kwi" is listed. When I Unrar MMCS-261UM show the next: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\MMCS-261UM.rar: La información de autenticidad no es válida o está dañada Help please ! ! ! |
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Hrmm..
There should be an alldata.kwi on there too... O. |
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I check MMCS-E-DVD.rar, and this patch YES contains the ALLDATA.KWI
Otaku, will be possible to put in a CD the ALLDATA.KWI version MMCS-E-DVD and loading.kwi version MMCS-261UM together, and try install the patch? Otherwise, I will wait for to that rcostin postee patch with the "lost" file. . . |
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