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Otaku 05-11-2008 01:35 PM

DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
This will only work with v109/2068
If you have a different version, let me know.
atb
O.
You'll need to rename the file, obviously. Just remove the .txt extension and ope with winrar ( or whatever ).

brian360 05-11-2008 01:57 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
As I was the 'beta tester' for this, I confirm it works with my MMCS :) DVD playback while the vehicle in motion now works, with no cutting of any wires, and no losing of any navigation functions!

Note: the patch is for the NR-261UM models. If you have the NR-261EM model, send it to Otaku so he can make a patch for you.

Quick installation instructions:

* Follow rcostin's instructions for removing and unlocking the hard drive here: https://mitsubishiforum.com/m_208034/tm.htm

* Extract the RAR file in the above post

* On the "HDD3" partition (the one with the file "Loading.kwi"), make a backup copy of the original loading.kwi and keep it in a safe place.

* Execute the patch from the RAR file to patch the loading.kwi file.

* Before reinstalling the hard drive back into the MMCS, disconnect the (-) battery cable for about 2 minutes. This is necessary to "cold" boot the MMCS to get it to load the new firmware. (pulling the appropriate fuse might also work).

* Reconnect the battery cable and put the hard drive back in the MMCS.

* Close the screen and turn the ignition key back to ACC or "ON".

* You will see it do a version up, then a screen check. After a few moments it should restart and be back to normal operation.

* Stick in a DVD and go for a test drive!


rcpax 05-12-2008 12:05 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Hi brian or rcostin, got a few questions.

1. Is it OK to remove the drive without detaching the battery terminals?
2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive?
3. We attach the HDD back unlocked?

rcostin 05-12-2008 05:05 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
1. As long as the car is not started (MMCS not operate), you can remove the disk.
2. There is an executable patcher. you have to extract it in the same folder as loading.kwi, execute the patch (which modifies the loading.kwi file) and put back loading.kwi on disk
3. You may attach the disk back. The unit will lock it back.

Unfortunately, to force reloading the OS (loading.kwi) you have to detach the MMCS from the battery for few minutes ......



ORIGINAL: rcpax

Hi brian or rcostin, got a few questions.

1. Is it OK to remove the drive without detaching the battery terminals?
2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive?
3. We attach the HDD back unlocked?


rcpax 05-12-2008 05:31 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Thanks for the quick reply. Kudos to you, brian, and Otaku.:)

rcostin 05-12-2008 07:32 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Hi,
I have a different version. I've uploaded it here.
Still waiting for my car :)

All the best,
Costin

Otaku 05-12-2008 07:57 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I'll have a shuftie when I'm home from work.. :)
TBH, I'm surprised theres not an easier way to upgrade without all the kerfuffle of copying files to the harddrive..
How do normal, legitimate updates work ?
atb
O.

brian360 05-12-2008 11:04 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcpax
2. And also, I understand the attachment is a patcher, and we needed the actual KWI from the HDD, patch it, then rewrite it back to the drive?
Sorry, I didn't realize otaku posted a patching program :) I've updated my post to make the instructions slightly clearer on this.

Once we figure out how "normal" software updates work, our goal is to make the patch as simple as sticking in a CD. But for now, we have to do it the hard way...


rcostin 05-12-2008 11:25 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
What about this scenario:
Using a Linux SH4 bootable CD.
In rc files it should unlock disk, make checkings, copy the loader.kwi file, eject CD, and restart the MMCS ....
Could it be so simple ?

Need to check.
Costin

brian360 05-12-2008 12:01 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Unfortunately, embedded system's don't tend to boot that way. We're at the mercy of the bootloader, which is located on a disk-on-chip or flash memory or something similar. But theres nothing to say that we can't replace the bootloader with a custom one, then boot linux off it :)

I think it'd be easier to see if the MMCS has any 'hidden way' to execute programs off a CD (i.e. trick it into thinking its a legitimate upgrade disc) and run the patch application that way (recompiled for SH4 CE of course). Thats why I'd like to get my hands on the new Map data update disc, which does in fact update the firmware, so we can see what the MMCS looks for when you insert a CD/DVD, then we can mimic the behavior.


Otaku 05-12-2008 12:11 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: brian360

Unfortunately, embedded system's don't tend to boot that way. We're at the mercy of the bootloader, which is located on a disk-on-chip or flash memory or something similar. But theres nothing to say that we can't replace the bootloader with a custom one, then boot linux off it :)

I think it'd be easier to see if the MMCS has any 'hidden way' to execute programs off a CD (i.e. trick it into thinking its a legitimate upgrade disc) and run the patch application that way (recompiled for SH4 CE of course). Thats why I'd like to get my hands on the new Map data update disc, which does in fact update the firmware, so we can see what the MMCS looks for when you insert a CD/DVD, then we can mimic the behavior.
Ahh - that explains why the bootloader is looking for a key then.
I thought the map updates were just maps ..
Ok - I need a used key.. :)
atb.
O

rcostin 05-12-2008 03:04 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I still believe that the key is used only to mark a counter.
We shoult look over nk.exe because I don't think the bootloader needs to load the image DIRECTLY from CD/DVD. It may load loading.kwi from hdd and when nk.exe is started, THEN it looks for an available CD/PCCard/HDD to load something.
Costin

Otaku 05-12-2008 03:15 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

I still believe that the key is used only to mark a counter.
We shoult look over nk.exe because I don't think the bootloader needs to load the image DIRECTLY from CD/DVD. It may load loading.kwi from hdd and when nk.exe is started, THEN it looks for an available CD/PCCard/HDD to load something.
Costin

Hrmm..
What makes you think that ? I'm not seeing anything in the kernel that would suggest it does anything to do with loading new firmware..
O.

rcostin 05-12-2008 03:36 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I was just thinking the way the other units (not mitsubishi, but Toyota) is doing the upgrade .. without key. Was just a thought...
And they said that the key is used to allow only one upgrade.

Otaku 05-12-2008 04:01 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

I was just thinking the way the other units (not mitsubishi, but Toyota) is doing the upgrade .. without key. Was just a thought...
And they said that the key is used to allow only one upgrade.

Heh..
Was a good thought .. I'm going back through the applications to see if there is a way to trigger an update from the GUI..
A copy of the update DVD might help ( or access to the file structure ). There may be something unique on it that indicates its an update..
Hmm..
Do you keep the update key ?

atb.
O.

rcostin 05-13-2008 07:19 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I do not have an upgrade CD. Does anyone have such a CD ? It's good to know if it contains a loading.kwi file ......

LAST UPDATE
Looks like the dealer has to make an update for my model, so, because I just got the car back today, I will go there tomorrow to see if the CD used will also contain an OS update.

evoracer 05-13-2008 05:55 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I have aquestion about the procedure. At the end of he unlock procedure, it reads:
"10. Now you may turn off the computer. The disk is unlocked. You may use it with a Windows computer as a regular disk."

What is the next step to loading the file you have created?Do I have to use the Navi HDD as a slave drive? I have a laptop that has only one HDD connection.

Also, what program do I want to download for unlocking the HDD? I see no program named "unlockhd"

Thanks!

Otaku 05-13-2008 06:28 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

Hi,
I have a different version. I've uploaded it here.
Still waiting for my car :)

All the best,
Costin

Heh - looking at it now ..
Strangely ( or perhaps not so ) there appear to be very few differences.
For example : in the bootloader, the only changes that aren't the textual strings are the hard-drive keys..
I'll have a patch for you shortly..
atb
O.

Ok - the code is basically the same for the patch, but its beer'o'clock..
I'll knock one together for you probably before the weekend..
Do your best to get a copy of the update cd - this messing around with hard drive swapping sounds annoying .. I'm sure theres a way to fool the system into thinking this is an authentic update.

atb
O.


brian360 05-13-2008 06:31 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: evoracer

I have aquestion about the procedure. At the end of he unlock procedure, it reads:
"10. Now you may turn off the computer. The disk is unlocked. You may use it with a Windows computer as a regular disk."

What is the next step to loading the file you have created?Do I have to use the Navi HDD as a slave drive? I have a laptop that has only one HDD connection.
Once the drive is unlocked, you may use it as a normal hard drive. It will remain "unlocked" until you reinsert it into the MMCS. If you only have a laptop with one HDD connection, it gets a little bit more complicated, especially since you can't easily select the drive to be a slave.

One thing you could do is boot a system like Knoppix with the unlocked hard drive attached, get the loading.kwi file off the drive and copy to a USB key, boot back with your original drive into windows, patch the loading.kwi file, then boot back with knoppix and the unlocked drive to copy the updated loading.kwi back to it.... ugh :)

Or if you have a friend with a desktop PC you can just attach the unlocked drive using a 3.5" IDE to 2.5" IDE adapter on the secondary channel to do the patch in one quick operation.

Or you could get a USB->2.5" IDE adapter and plug the unlocked drive into it and then to your laptop. Note that the USB adapter will NOT work with the unlock tool (below), but as soon as the drive is unlocked it'll work perfectly in Windows with it.

Or if these options sound frightening, hopefully we'll have an easier solution figured out soon :)


ORIGINAL: evoracer
Also, what program do I want to download for unlocking the HDD? I see no program named "unlockhd"
The tool you use is called "xboxhdm". There's a download link for it at the very bottom of this webpage. It will let you create a bootable CD that contains some programs (in our case, the "unlockhd" program) to let you unlock hard drives. It is intended for xbox hard drives, but works just fine on the MMCS hard drive.

Otaku 05-14-2008 03:23 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Hrmm..
There appears to be a way to update from the configuration menu...
O.

rcostin 05-14-2008 11:34 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I went to dealer today. He made the update just by placing the CD in the unit. I tried to put the CD again and nothing happened. I thing the system looks for loading.kwi, checks the version and decides if it has to load it or not.
The update was for Gracenote Database and for the navi program (as they said to me)
Costin

PS
The CD contains the following files:
ALLDATA.KWI, 4K
CDDB_VER_EN.TXT, 1K
ECDDB.UDT, 38,260K
ECDDB.UDX, 9,485K
LOADING.KWI, 24,624K

rcpax 05-14-2008 11:59 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Is the map update CD? So you did buy one? How about the "key" they were talking about?

rcostin 05-14-2008 01:04 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
No map update but only program update and CDDB. And also, no key required and was for free.

Otaku 05-14-2008 02:38 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

I went to dealer today. He made the update just by placing the CD in the unit. I tried to put the CD again and nothing happened. I thing the system looks for loading.kwi, checks the version and decides if it has to load it or not.
The update was for Gracenote Database and for the navi program (as they said to me)
Costin

PS
The CD contains the following files:
ALLDATA.KWI, 4K
CDDB_VER_EN.TXT, 1K
ECDDB.UDT, 38,260K
ECDDB.UDX, 9,485K
LOADING.KWI, 24,624K

Ok - I've had a look at it, and I'm beginning to get an idea of how this works ..
With any luck I'll have a generic update cd this weekend..
I'm assuming either you or brian are up for testing it out ? ( seeing as you two seem to be the best qualified for recovering from a bad install ;) )

atb.
O.

brian360 05-14-2008 03:41 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Thanks for the info rcostin! The alldata.kwi i've never looked at to even have a clue what its for. When I did a CDDB update the *.udx, udt, and txt files were used. Since you say it doesn't even register when you insert the CD a 2nd time, you're probably right that it checks the version and does nothing if not needed. Gives me much more info to test this with.

Would you mind sending me/otaku the new loading.kwi and alldata.kwi files? I/We wouldn't mind having the newest software version to play with. They've added a few new features that I'm interested in, and hopefully fixed the "touch beep" setting not being remembered bug.


rcostin 05-14-2008 04:22 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I think the alldata.kwi stores a kind of index or versions ...
Just for you to know, my Outlander is the european version.

Costin

Later Edit
I replaced the original hdd with another one, HITACHI Travelstar 30G, with an image of original hdd cloned on it. I am waiting to see if, after MMCS drains completely, the loading.kwi will be loaded from this disk.
So far I noticed just a longer delay in loading the Music Server data...
News, in an hour...

rcpax 05-15-2008 09:42 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

No map update but only program update and CDDB. And also, no key required and was for free.

Wow, that's good to know. Do you have a product name for the disc? or perhaps a part #? I'd like to ask my dealer about it (in the US). I did the CDDB update, but didn't have the KWI files you listed. I guess the system is smart enough to figure if my system isn't compatible with the update, and so I would like to give a go.

And please update us with the new HDD experiment. If it works, that could really open a big door for opportunities.

rcostin 05-15-2008 01:59 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I loaded the data from original disk to the new one, using a cloning tool, but when I tried to boot up, the system asked about a system disk. Should I use some kind of a bootloader ? I will try tomorrow to create another clone. I forgot to mention that the disks are using some different structura (CHS).

Unfortunately, I don't know what part number was that because the guy in charge with the update came with a copy without any marks on it. I noticed now that the map has some more colors and some new icons for POIs appeared. I will try to get a "What's New" report for it.

Cheers

PS1
I forgot to mention that first time, rushing to test the new hdd, I used the old version of the system, that I made before update, and started the system before the complete MMCS drainage. Everything went ok except the navi. The music was fine, playing ok, all the buttons working well except the navi which did't started at all. This leads me to think that the new program, already loaded, was trying to find something on the old disk and was unable to load .......

PS2
I unlocked the hdds, again, both original and the test one. On the original, alldata.kwi is still the old one, but Loading.kwi is the NEW one...
The ECDDB files are also copied in their partition.

PS3
The clone disk doesn't work .... Maybe the system checks for an original TOSHIBA drive....

jsrd 05-15-2008 02:09 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I have followed with great interest this thread, my congratulations to you for this success and for sharing it. Just now I am unable to experiment on my Out due to my work, but in two weeks mas I will try to apply the patch to the MMCS. Good luck...

sbessel 05-22-2008 11:06 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: brian360

(snipt
l..., and hopefully fixed the "touch beep" setting not being remembered bug.


After opening a ticket with Mistubishi customer service ~1 year ago, I found out earlier this week they said they have a patch, of course they say this is the *only* fix and it is just for me, yet they say it is ready and waiting at *any* dealer of my choice.

I plan on trying this on Tuesday the 27th.

That stupid beep-bug drives me insane [8D]

(sorry to thread jack)

brian360 05-22-2008 11:40 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
rcostin,

Thanks for the updates. I'll have to give it a go with a 2nd hard drive, too. I'd hate to see it checking the serial number of the hard drive or something.

I haven't had a chance to try the test update CD that otaku prepared. I've been busy this past week and will likely be busy through the weekend still.


After opening a ticket with Mistubishi customer service ~1 year ago, I found out earlier this week they said they have a patch, of course they say this is the *only* fix and it is just for me, yet they say it is ready and waiting at *any* dealer of my choice.

I plan on trying this on Tuesday the 27th.
Now thats some personal service! I guess I should stop by my dealer to see if they have the upgrade disc in for the US models.



rcpax 05-22-2008 11:55 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Pls keep us informed..

rcostin 05-22-2008 01:38 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: brian360
Thanks for the updates. I'll have to give it a go with a 2nd hard drive, too. I'd hate to see it checking the serial number of the hard drive or something.
I haven't had a chance to try the test update CD that otaku prepared. I've been busy this past week and will likely be busy through the weekend still.
Is possible that the unit checks some features for HDD: thermal feedback or something. The one I had is a regular HDD and may not have some special automotive specific features... Had to check

Hopefully otaku had time to prepare also a 261-EM version for EU :)

bleacherbum 05-28-2008 01:10 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
bump

Otaku 05-28-2008 05:27 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 

ORIGINAL: rcostin

PS3
The clone disk doesn't work .... Maybe the system checks for an original TOSHIBA drive....

Hmm..
I should be able to tell you what the system is looking for this weekend ( or thereabouts ).

O.

rcostin 05-28-2008 07:26 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
ISO file for NR-261UM is here
Name: MMCS-261UM.rar
Size: 12,775,625 bytes
MD5: 1cccf6d95d478fa64c6f4e24239ce8e5

Download archive, extract the files, burn the ISO file and read the README file inside the archive.

Enjoy,
Costin

jsrd 05-29-2008 07:01 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
File .rar downloaded....

CD created....

Later I try patch MMCS. . .

jsrd 05-29-2008 11:28 AM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
rcostin-Otaku, I have problem:

Start the process patch but in MMCS shows "Verificando disco" and nothing sucess...

On CD burned only file "loading.kwi" is listed.

When I Unrar MMCS-261UM show the next:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\MMCS-261UM.rar: La información de autenticidad no es válida o está dañada


Help please ! ! !

Otaku 05-29-2008 12:28 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
Hrmm..
There should be an alldata.kwi on there too...
O.

jsrd 05-29-2008 01:23 PM

RE: DVD in motion patch for NR261UM
 
I check MMCS-E-DVD.rar, and this patch YES contains the ALLDATA.KWI

Otaku, will be possible to put in a CD the ALLDATA.KWI version MMCS-E-DVD and loading.kwi version MMCS-261UM together, and try install the patch? Otherwise, I will wait for to that rcostin postee patch with the "lost" file. . .


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