Edmund's Long Termer(May Update)
#41
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
Yeah, I asked here where did she get the idea about the heated rear seats, but she didn't answer. Since she made some other out of place comments, I assumed that she didn't have a personal opinion about the Outlander, but instead she copied some stuff from other reviews to make up her post (and get paid for it I guess).
Another ignorant comment she made about the Outlander in her review of 2008 Saturn Vuewas in regards to the torque steer - like it's very obvious and unpleasant.
However other reviewers on the long term blog have dismissed the Outlander's torque steer issue (or non-issue I should say).
Another ignorant comment she made about the Outlander in her review of 2008 Saturn Vuewas in regards to the torque steer - like it's very obvious and unpleasant.
However other reviewers on the long term blog have dismissed the Outlander's torque steer issue (or non-issue I should say).
#42
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
Outlander First Impressions
Last night was my first trip in our new Mitsubishi Outlander. I didn't have enough time in it to really wring it out, but hear are a few quick impressions:
1) I love the tailgate. Why all SUVs don't have one like this escapes me. Well, OK, it doesn't escape me. They're called focus groups. But I digress. I like this one because: (a) the still-deep hatch's liftover isn't high; (b)with the tailgate closed, there's a fence to hold stuff in so it won't tumble out, and; (c) I get a placeto sit and tie my running shoes, ski boots, etc.
2) I never did figure out the bluetooth pairing.But I didn't have time to RTFM. Still, you all know my opinion of controls that REQUIRE someone to RTFM.
3) Ditto the Nav systems voice command. The voice is male, which for some reason I dislike. "OK dad, shut up already. Gosh!"But I could not find the screen that allows me to either change it or shut it off. Its got to be in there, so owner's manual diving is in order. Manual-diving, schmanual-diving.
4) The paddles are pretty swift, but its a bit too easy for the shifter to unintentionally wind up in the "sport" mode when yanking it out of park or reverse. "Why won't this thing upshift? Oh. *slaps forehead* Never mind."
5) Love the ride vs. handling balance. Kudos to the suspension calibration team.
6) The front seat seems to have some sort of suspension built into the mount. It has some "give" when I accelerate or brake sharply, and I think it's helping to soak up road roughness too. It feels way too controlled and damped to be a loose seat. I've combed the press materials and called Mitsu, but so far I have no confirmation.
Dan Edmunds, Director of Vehicle Testing @ 4,944 miles
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Last night was my first trip in our new Mitsubishi Outlander. I didn't have enough time in it to really wring it out, but hear are a few quick impressions:
1) I love the tailgate. Why all SUVs don't have one like this escapes me. Well, OK, it doesn't escape me. They're called focus groups. But I digress. I like this one because: (a) the still-deep hatch's liftover isn't high; (b)with the tailgate closed, there's a fence to hold stuff in so it won't tumble out, and; (c) I get a placeto sit and tie my running shoes, ski boots, etc.
2) I never did figure out the bluetooth pairing.But I didn't have time to RTFM. Still, you all know my opinion of controls that REQUIRE someone to RTFM.
3) Ditto the Nav systems voice command. The voice is male, which for some reason I dislike. "OK dad, shut up already. Gosh!"But I could not find the screen that allows me to either change it or shut it off. Its got to be in there, so owner's manual diving is in order. Manual-diving, schmanual-diving.
4) The paddles are pretty swift, but its a bit too easy for the shifter to unintentionally wind up in the "sport" mode when yanking it out of park or reverse. "Why won't this thing upshift? Oh. *slaps forehead* Never mind."
5) Love the ride vs. handling balance. Kudos to the suspension calibration team.
6) The front seat seems to have some sort of suspension built into the mount. It has some "give" when I accelerate or brake sharply, and I think it's helping to soak up road roughness too. It feels way too controlled and damped to be a loose seat. I've combed the press materials and called Mitsu, but so far I have no confirmation.
Dan Edmunds, Director of Vehicle Testing @ 4,944 miles
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#43
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
That's clear things out. People writing their impression for a professional online auto review, but wouldn't care to read the manual in the first place. While I, average Joe, proud owner of the real thing, took time out to read the manual for my car, thus I know to a great extent all the ins and outs of my car. RTFM!!
#44
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
I suppose if I drove dozens of cars, I'd confuse them too..but not if I was paid!
I didn't read the manual and had no problem pairing my phone. I've also not experienced any torque steer and I've seen other reviewspraising the lack of it
Journalists seem to find something that resonates and copy each other..e.g. 'cheap' interiors on anything but VWs, Toyotas, and Hondas (Toyota interiors look cheap to me)..and body gaps (as if people go around with micrometers comparing?)
I didn't read the manual and had no problem pairing my phone. I've also not experienced any torque steer and I've seen other reviewspraising the lack of it
Journalists seem to find something that resonates and copy each other..e.g. 'cheap' interiors on anything but VWs, Toyotas, and Hondas (Toyota interiors look cheap to me)..and body gaps (as if people go around with micrometers comparing?)
#45
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
2007 Mitsubishi Outlander: Style and Personality
If you were in charge of developing the second-generation Mitsubishi Outlander, what choices would you make in hopes of improving the vehicle's sales success? After all, the first Outlander didn't exactly burn up the sales charts, and now the competition has gotten even more intense. (I recently counted 20 compact or smaller midsize crossover SUVs for sale.) Nor is your developmental budget anywhere near what Toyota's is.
After spending the last few days in our long-term 2007 Outlander, it seems to me that Mitsubishi decided to focus on two things that are often missing in this segment: style and personality. The Outlander is one of the best looking small/midsize SUVs out there thanks to its toned and crisp lines. Inside, there are some clever touches, such as the hard-drive based navigation system, the metal shift paddles and, on 4WD models, the iDrive-looking drive-mode selection ****.
The personality part comes out when one drives the Outlander for fun. Over the weekend I headed to California's Kings River in the Sierra Nevadas for some whitewater rafting. I drove about 60 miles on curvy, canyon road and was impressed with the Outlander's handling balance and the feedback coming through the structure and steering wheel. The paddle shifters came in handy on this drive to keep the slightly underwhelming V6 on boil, and all of these attributes came into play when I had to dodge unexpected groups of cattle that had apparently gotten loose along my route.
Overall, I think Mitsubishi took the right path given what it had to work with. Of those 20 or so small or midsize car-based SUVs, I'd have to say that the Outlander would rank in my personal top five in terms of recommended.
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor, Edmunds.com, 5,440 miles
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If you were in charge of developing the second-generation Mitsubishi Outlander, what choices would you make in hopes of improving the vehicle's sales success? After all, the first Outlander didn't exactly burn up the sales charts, and now the competition has gotten even more intense. (I recently counted 20 compact or smaller midsize crossover SUVs for sale.) Nor is your developmental budget anywhere near what Toyota's is.
After spending the last few days in our long-term 2007 Outlander, it seems to me that Mitsubishi decided to focus on two things that are often missing in this segment: style and personality. The Outlander is one of the best looking small/midsize SUVs out there thanks to its toned and crisp lines. Inside, there are some clever touches, such as the hard-drive based navigation system, the metal shift paddles and, on 4WD models, the iDrive-looking drive-mode selection ****.
The personality part comes out when one drives the Outlander for fun. Over the weekend I headed to California's Kings River in the Sierra Nevadas for some whitewater rafting. I drove about 60 miles on curvy, canyon road and was impressed with the Outlander's handling balance and the feedback coming through the structure and steering wheel. The paddle shifters came in handy on this drive to keep the slightly underwhelming V6 on boil, and all of these attributes came into play when I had to dodge unexpected groups of cattle that had apparently gotten loose along my route.
Overall, I think Mitsubishi took the right path given what it had to work with. Of those 20 or so small or midsize car-based SUVs, I'd have to say that the Outlander would rank in my personal top five in terms of recommended.
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor, Edmunds.com, 5,440 miles
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#46
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
I don't know where Edmunds ranks in terms of automotive review credibility but hopefully this tweaks the interest of some of the other mainstreamers out there.
Hopefully the Mits PR department is all over these.
Hopefully the Mits PR department is all over these.
#47
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
One of the rare posts that mentions somebody liking the paddle shifters. A lot consider it as gimmick, but the semi-manual shifting is really useful for those who knows how and when to use it.
#48
RE: Edmund's Latest Long Termer (Update May 14)
ORIGINAL: rdenis
I don't know where Edmunds ranks in terms of automotive review credibility but hopefully this tweaks the interest of some of the other mainstreamers out there.
Hopefully the Mits PR department is all over these.
I don't know where Edmunds ranks in terms of automotive review credibility but hopefully this tweaks the interest of some of the other mainstreamers out there.
Hopefully the Mits PR department is all over these.
Credible or not, web magazines like Edmunds, Caranddriver, Motortrend, etc. are the first web pages to show up when you google "Outlander Review". Therefore what they write will be read by thousands, if not millions of would be buyers out there.
Please feel free to comment in their long-term log like our friend dodo. It'll keep them honest with what they write.
Mitsubishi's PR department better keep a close eye on those pages, it's cheap publicity for our beloved CUV.
#49
Hello proud owners of Outlander , glad I found this site ,particularly
this post .
I drove 140,000 kms in my Endeavor 2005 2 wd without any problems ,
now I am much tempted by the Outlander 2010 .
I presume it is even better than the 2007 tested .
Which model would give me the v-6 , paddle shifter , no 3rd row seat ,
no 710 watts sound system .
I live in Quebec and the swithable 2/auto 4x4 / blocked 4x4 is the
feature that really excite my mind , cause my dna is sport motocycle
from long time ago ...
Do you think I will be happy with my move ...very personnal indeed ,
but I trust your opinions .
Thanks , merci beaucoup.
What would be a fair exchange value at the dealer ? At a Mitsu dealer ,
the rep offerred me a ridiculous $ 5000 cnd , almost telling a Endie 2wd is
the stupiest thing to own ! That is spitting in his own soup ...really
this young rep had no brain
this post .
I drove 140,000 kms in my Endeavor 2005 2 wd without any problems ,
now I am much tempted by the Outlander 2010 .
I presume it is even better than the 2007 tested .
Which model would give me the v-6 , paddle shifter , no 3rd row seat ,
no 710 watts sound system .
I live in Quebec and the swithable 2/auto 4x4 / blocked 4x4 is the
feature that really excite my mind , cause my dna is sport motocycle
from long time ago ...
Do you think I will be happy with my move ...very personnal indeed ,
but I trust your opinions .
Thanks , merci beaucoup.
What would be a fair exchange value at the dealer ? At a Mitsu dealer ,
the rep offerred me a ridiculous $ 5000 cnd , almost telling a Endie 2wd is
the stupiest thing to own ! That is spitting in his own soup ...really
this young rep had no brain
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