Navi without speed indicator?
Hi! I just bought a 2008 Outlander with a navigator (MMCS). So far I think that it's just GREAT! But nothing so good, that they couldn't make it even better.
One thing that seems strange is that there don't seem to be the possibility to display the actual speed on the navi (...the car speedometer is always more or less inaccurate). I have used other portable navigators before, and they all have had a speed indicator. Why not my Outtie?
One thing that seems strange is that there don't seem to be the possibility to display the actual speed on the navi (...the car speedometer is always more or less inaccurate). I have used other portable navigators before, and they all have had a speed indicator. Why not my Outtie?
I doubt that the avg speed indicator is part of the Navigation functions (i.e. that its just received via the VSS wire and/or CAN-bus, but NOT via GPS). Someone could test this easily by unplugging the GPS antenna and seeing if the stopwatch functions still work.
You could always write down the lat/lon, exact time, drive in a straight line, and get the new lat/lon and time and calculate your speed manually.... hah
You could always write down the lat/lon, exact time, drive in a straight line, and get the new lat/lon and time and calculate your speed manually.... hah

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> or you can you do like me, use cellphone navi (I have Nokia N82 w/ Garmin)
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Of course, I can use my old portable Navman navi also, but I still think it's kind of stupid not to display the gps speed as it is only a matter ofa fewmore lines in the navi software.
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>Whats worng with the speedo in your dash?
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Normally the speedometers aren't very accurate.I haven't had time yet to check how accurate the Outlander speedo is, but anyway its readings will vary depending on tire size, tire wear et.c.
In Finland we are moving towards zero tolerance regarding speed limits, so it would be nice to know your actual speed. Thereare appr. 800 automatic speed traps (cameras) along the roads for the moment, and the number is increasing rapidly ... lol
> or you can you do like me, use cellphone navi (I have Nokia N82 w/ Garmin)
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Of course, I can use my old portable Navman navi also, but I still think it's kind of stupid not to display the gps speed as it is only a matter ofa fewmore lines in the navi software.
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>Whats worng with the speedo in your dash?
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Normally the speedometers aren't very accurate.I haven't had time yet to check how accurate the Outlander speedo is, but anyway its readings will vary depending on tire size, tire wear et.c.
In Finland we are moving towards zero tolerance regarding speed limits, so it would be nice to know your actual speed. Thereare appr. 800 automatic speed traps (cameras) along the roads for the moment, and the number is increasing rapidly ... lol
Insteresting information thatFinlandis moving towards zero tolerance regarding speed limits.
Let say you're driving along anddoing the speed limit as per your speedometer, but your actural speed is 8 - 10 Km/h over for whatever reasons, techincally, you're breaking the laws, But, to me, any reasonable laws enforcement should set tolerance to account for reasonable speedometers inaccuracy, and you should notbe ticketed.
Let say you're driving along anddoing the speed limit as per your speedometer, but your actural speed is 8 - 10 Km/h over for whatever reasons, techincally, you're breaking the laws, But, to me, any reasonable laws enforcement should set tolerance to account for reasonable speedometers inaccuracy, and you should notbe ticketed.
Tire wear isnt going to affect your speedo much at all. Your loosing tenths of an inch. Unless your car was calibrated for mud tires that have like 3 inch tread then you wont have a problem. If you buy different size rims or tires then you should get it recalabrated so the speedo is accurate for those tires and rims.
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>Let say you're driving along anddoing the speed limit as per your speedometer, but your actural speed is >8 - 10 Km/h over for whatever reasons, techincally, you're breaking the laws, But, to me, any reasonable >laws enforcement should set tolerance to account for reasonable speedometers inaccuracy
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Well, at least here the speedos inaccuracy isn't allowed to be negative (showing too low readings). Thats why the speedos by default always show readings 5-10% too high.
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>Tire wear isnt going to affect your speedo much at all. Your loosing tenths of an inch.
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Thats not always true. Half of the year I use winter-tires with coarser tread, and they can easily loose 10mm. That already means20mm on the diameter, and about 3 km/h (at 100km/h).
My summer-tires are of size 225/55-18 and my winter-tires 215/65-16 which mean that as new they have a speed difference of2.7km/h (check with http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html). Worn down winter-tires compared with new summer-tires then give a speed-difference of 5.7 km/h (at 100 km/h). Together with the default speedo inaccuracy that is of the same magnitude, this can be a bit annoying.
Recalibrating the speedo every time I change tires is no solution, so I still miss the GPS speed on the Navi
>Let say you're driving along anddoing the speed limit as per your speedometer, but your actural speed is >8 - 10 Km/h over for whatever reasons, techincally, you're breaking the laws, But, to me, any reasonable >laws enforcement should set tolerance to account for reasonable speedometers inaccuracy
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Well, at least here the speedos inaccuracy isn't allowed to be negative (showing too low readings). Thats why the speedos by default always show readings 5-10% too high.
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>Tire wear isnt going to affect your speedo much at all. Your loosing tenths of an inch.
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Thats not always true. Half of the year I use winter-tires with coarser tread, and they can easily loose 10mm. That already means20mm on the diameter, and about 3 km/h (at 100km/h).
My summer-tires are of size 225/55-18 and my winter-tires 215/65-16 which mean that as new they have a speed difference of2.7km/h (check with http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html). Worn down winter-tires compared with new summer-tires then give a speed-difference of 5.7 km/h (at 100 km/h). Together with the default speedo inaccuracy that is of the same magnitude, this can be a bit annoying.
Recalibrating the speedo every time I change tires is no solution, so I still miss the GPS speed on the Navi



