bastards they are!

you can also get H from aluminum in a solution of Sodium Hydroxide.....but you still need electricity to make aluminum from bauxite ore. Theoretically though, this could be done with a solar station in your back yard....or you could sell the Aluminum Oxide back to Alcoa....saving them money on processing from raw ore. The problems with H are....

it only produces like 6 BTU, it has to be stored under pressure...and you need one hell of a lot to compensate.

Hydrogen is just another way for energy comanies to keep you coming back to the pump. You really think they're going to get off the teat?

 

While I agree that the cars are by far not the only problem, they (when producing less emissions) quiet up all the powers that be givng them less to bitch about.
Im willing to also bet, that the emissions that are NOT being produced by the old Honda electric cars (the kind that had to be plugged in) are being doubled by the COAL burning plant that now has to produce that much more energy to repower that same ****ing car. Totally going back to your 'great circle' concept above Seb.

 

No ****? We need to find something we can sell to those bastards and jack the price up for the fun of it : )

 

I have read that even with burning coal that electricity is still more fuel efficient and produces less poluttion. Some environmental group came out last week and said that all the cars and coal plants combined are not as big a problem as livestock...So, a lot of what we have been hearing for the past 30 years about energy and automakers is BS. apparently, the real threat is cattle farts. But I say it still doesn't hurt to have cleaner air and water.
I read something else like if we covered 7% of the state of Arizona with solar panels it would power the entire country. But it would take 40 years to recoup the expense of doing that.

 

lmao.. i guess we should just kill alll of em and have a big bbq

 

Hey, Nate, we can start with your backyard! Damned saguaros! Kill 'em all! (Thats right, another Metallica reference)

 

metallica....now them's fightin' words!

I've got a great idea to keep the coals hot.

 

hahaha ammonia..... but isnt ammonia toxic? and about the ****ting catle, plug them filters up them asses!!

 

Whoa whoa whoa, now what could possibly be bad about Metallica??

 

yeah, ammonia is highly toxic. but if you look at the statistics involving injury due to ammonia poisoning, you'll find they are exceptionally low.

hey, wait a minute....isn't gasoline toxic?

you mean the one with the 250cfm blower?