i guess that's the difference between you and me mike... its hard for me to not be satisfied w/ a car when i've put time, money, sweat and blood into a car. i would STILL rock my eclipse even though it was 111whp. i loved that car b/c it was MINE. i think i'm going to like this one even more b/c i'm doing something that not a lot of other ppl do. 160whp in this car will be PLENTYfor me for the time being. i dont think you understand that i've NEVER had a fast car... so anything faster than stock right now, is concidered fast to me. we just have different opinions i guess, but it's all good. i really never look at 1/4 mile times, i really don't. but that's all i have to base the car off of b/c 200whp doesn't sound like diddly crap to most.

 

well let me start by saying before my Evo I drove a 105WHP 3G sooo yea do you think I knew what fast was. Ron understand this. It is a game it never ends and you will never be satisfied after you start to see what fast is. I always said a 13 sec car is all I want. and planned to do it with my 3g then I got the Evo and had a 13 sec car so I wanted only small mods. well small mods later The car started to come alive and it was adicting.

You do realize your the same guy Ron who insisted on needing like a 600HP car for the longest time. so you and I both know you wont be satisfied its just the way itt goes. Your are no different from me. I though Id be done wit hthe Evo from here well took me a few weeks to want a meth kit and more HP this after all the money time sweat ect that I put inot the Evo belive me I was thinking like you when working on it, maybe you just dont understand and you wont untill your start to feel some power underneath you. But now I am starting to not enjoy driving he car on the streets and im being like you and cant chose what I want

 

I guess i don't see where yall are coming from. True that this car wont' be 600whp but in a car this light there is really no point. This car has opened my eyes to see how big of a difference Weight can do. I think that 300-350whp in this car will be plenty fast enough for me. What is it that yall don't see the point/logic in? i'm dropping a new engine in a car to be faster and stronger... seems logical to me. yes its a honda, who cares. yes it's fwd, i'd say proly 70-80% of imports are fwd so it's not uncommon. my next car/project will be RWD - either RX-7 or S2000

 

youll get board of haveing traction problems when you really just want to go. the power will wear off on you and feel slow then 300-350 wont be enough. I understand the logic completely though. Belive me I wish My car weighed only 2k lbs lol. 70-80% are FWD and they dont get very far on an average either. Look at teh RWD and AWD sport imports there are MUCH heigher % of them that make fast times. the FWD the % is much mich lower on being a fast built car. because it is not easy to harness the power and put it on the floor. I think doing just the motor swap and calling it done is enough to me. Make it a car that can move a little bit and keep it as a DD (if it were me) then you could save and buy a car that can do more for you and not have to worry about not having another car to DD incase god forbid something happens.

 

gotcha... so it's the traction part of it that you are against. that was easy enough. i understand and that's why i'm probably not going to go anything over 300... there is a guy on the sol forum that has not even broke 300whp mark yet (dynojet) and is spinning through 1, 2 and 3'rd gear.... i don't want that. tha's why i was planning on going w/ the JR SC b/c they put the sol up to 250whp and thats it. i've ALSO thought about going all motor for the same reasons ur talking about here. nice lil built motor in the car putting me to about 200-220whp i think would be perfect. even w/ my 103hp (crank not wheel) w/ my new exhaust i have tractions problems in 1st lol, i know it's crazy. mabey all motor is the way to go.

 

Here was my thought process just now.

Okay he doesnt understand where we are coming from. What is the point in modding the car? He says he wants like 180 what ever whp... so why not GST? Oh thats right the GST is a lot heavier.. .so what else can compete with that.... then i realised.... there isnt a whole lot... i cant think of anything. So i guess is see a point in that respect.

But im with Mike on this. The first cari consistantly drove was my moms GST. After a while the tq steer and pulling/fighting with it just got boring... like... yeah okay what ever. It just got lame. We should all start with 600hp cars lol.

 

i get where you are coming from Sebba but if you put that into prospective than here's what ur saying in a nutshell... i don't care if you have a 1500whp supra... eventualy if you drive it long enough you will get tired of it and want more... that's the whole point of moding in the first place. i'm gonna tak the sol up to about 220whp and be happy.

 

okay

 

rcjrman as soon as u get some pics u need to post em im dying to see all the work your doing on your honda even tho its not mitsu but man im looking forward to those pics.

 

well its gonna bea lil bit before i have anything worth taking pics of... if you wanna see what my car looked like a week ago you can see pics on my myspace - www.myspace.com/ronjr9186 i'm putting new pics up prolly today or tomorrow w/ the new primer on it, all the parts i have in and my new GSR motor that came in yesterday