ok so say we put an 18 or 20g turbo on there now what kinda gains might we be talking at the wheels??

 

18g or 20g turbo on what? a 2g gst? well like i said before with a good tune and all suporting mods you are looking close to 350-370whp w/ an 18g. a good 20g will put you into the low-mid 400's.

 

yeah see now thats getting close to some serious hp right there lol and yeah we're talking about a 2g gst lol...i wouldnt drive any other eclipse haha...but yeah man thats the kinda hp im talkin lol so that list of stuff earlier was what i need to do for a 4g63 engine right...b/c im not gonna touch performance on a 420a with a 50ft stick...

 

to suport a 18g turbo you'll need
injectors
fuel pump
rr fpr
fmic
ic piping
boost controller
wideband
boost gauge
tuning device (dsm link, greddy emanage, etc etc)
bov
clutch
this is still running on stock engine some things that would definatly help you out would be some head work (valve job mostly) and cams. its definatly not cheap to get up to that high of hp... not to mention your trani and axels will be hitting their max limits which aren't cheap to replace. any other power adders like meth injection or nitrous will basically make you get a new bottom end or at least rebuild yours. a stock bottom end is good up to between 450 and 500whp.

 

sweet thats what im talking about...so theres really not a whole helluva lotta work that goes into upgrading a turbo on a gs-t...lol i def like that haha so what you're opinion which i think i already know the answer but between the 18 and 20g turbos...which would you choose...

 

depends on what kind of power you are looking for.... you can buy a decent 20g for about 1000-1100... if it were me i'd pay an extra 200 and get an FP3065 made by forced performance http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo this turbo will suport well over 5500whp. when i get my EVO i'll be looking at getin about 550whp so that's the turbo i was also looking at for my GSX. you can go a bit small and get a FP3052 which suports 500+ hp also. the way you are talking, i don't think you realize how much this will cost all in all... if you are lucky enough to get up to that hp w/o rebuilding the bottom end, snapping any axels or exploding your trani you are still lookin about 4500-5500 without tuning... tuning can be very expensive!!! if i were to guestimate i'd say you are looking about 7k to make ur car 450whp stable for daily driving.

 

well see thats the beauty in people like us that actually work for what we want...it comes with time and in the process we find out every aspect of what we want to do...people that have money to drop on w/e they want dont know b/c they never took the time to do the research and learn about what they are doing not to mention most of the time they dont do it on their own...lol see what im saying...i might have a long way to go and infinite hours of hard work and patiently waiting for paychecks before i can build to what i want but i figure in the mean time i can learn about what im doing so when i have parts sitting in front of me begging me to be put on my car (when i get it) to turn serious power to the ground and make everyone hang their heads in shame i wont be sitting here going where the hell does this go and what does it do...you know what i mean lol...and please explain to me what wideband is...

 

A wideband is a real time air/fuel ratio gauge, that ranges from 10.0 (really rich) to 16.0 or 17.0 I believe,which is really lean. The ideal a/f ratio on our cars is 11.1. I have a AEM UEGO and it works great. You use the a/f readings to tune with whatever your tuning device is.

 

if you don't know what rich or lean is basicall rich = a lot of fuel and not as much ar, lean = a lot of air, not as much fuel. Lean will get you more power but it is extremely bad for your car because it causes your EGT's (exhaust gas temperature) to jump which basically raises the heat of your gas i.e. the heat of your engine. You can do some reallll damage to an engine doing this such as warp your head, blow a hole in a piston, destroy a turbo etc etc.

 

with that said please read my wirte up on Knock and preignition https://mitsubishiforum.com/m_42371/tm.htmit will help understand this stuff