02 montero ls broke timing belt please help!!!
#21
JP, I was doing some research on this no compression issue you are experiencing. Have one more question for you - is it possible that the engine got redlined? If that happened, there is a chance that you can get a valve float condition and pistons could make contact with valves and bend them even if timing belt is still OK and engine is in time. I guess you may have to pull the heads to examine the valves.
Jim
#23
Sorry I missed some of the latest posts when I posted my last post. If timing is correct then I'm with benckj that compression test is not the true readings. Ive never seen an engine loose compression on all cyl at once even with timing off.
#24
Not exactly. With timing being off by one tooth you still get plenty compression. You will start getting random misfires and your power is reduced because combustion does not complete in the cylinder and/or not full amount of air/fuel mixture get drawn in. If timing off by two teeth, same you will have the same symptoms but to a worse degree and driveability is impaired more. But you still will get some compression - not zero on 5 cylinders.
#25
Not exactly. With timing being off by one tooth you still get plenty compression. You will start getting random misfires and your power is reduced because combustion does not complete in the cylinder and/or not full amount of air/fuel mixture get drawn in. If timing off by two teeth, same you will have the same symptoms but to a worse degree and driveability is impaired more. But you still will get some compression - not zero on 5 cylinders.
Unless compression check error having extremely low numbers across the board leads to a common fail point. This has to be valve related IMO.
#26
On your other idea of crank pulley slip - you would have same condition as timing being off. I suspect that if that were the case, you would feel and hear cylinders banging on valves (would result in compression being zero). I really hope OP might be able to take a peak into the cylinders for the tel tale signs of possible valve-to-cylinder contact.
I still did not hear if the engine was red-lined. That could cause valve/cylinder contact even if your timing is correct. This if puzzling and frustrating
#27
Hey folks, just throwing this idea out there. Perhaps someone have some more knowledge about this:
Is it possible for a cam gear to move in relation to the camshaft? I don't recall if there is a cotter key on the end of the shaft or a locator pin that aligns the cam gear. If that were to happen, the gears would still appear to be in time, but actual valve timing would be off. If this were to happen on one bank, we would have one side of the engine with no compression. Since the engine has no compression on both banks, is it possible for this to happen to the timing gear on the crankshaft?
Is it possible for a cam gear to move in relation to the camshaft? I don't recall if there is a cotter key on the end of the shaft or a locator pin that aligns the cam gear. If that were to happen, the gears would still appear to be in time, but actual valve timing would be off. If this were to happen on one bank, we would have one side of the engine with no compression. Since the engine has no compression on both banks, is it possible for this to happen to the timing gear on the crankshaft?
#28
As you can guess by this and my previous posts you can see that I'm leaning back to direction of timing issue and valve/cylinder contact.
#30
It doesn't sound like your engine is generating any compression... If there was compression the starter would be laboured just sounds like it's free turning the engine...
Here is a video of a good compression test...
Did it sound like that when you had the plugs in?
Here is a video of a good compression test...
Did it sound like that when you had the plugs in?