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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Im new here the names Scott. I have a 96 Eclipse Spyder convertible. 2.0 non turbo. I bought the car with a no fire problem and I have Replaced a few things on it but ill give you background(as I know it) The people who owned the car did a routine maintenance timing belt change on the car....It ran for about 30 minutes and then died. They sold it to another person convincing them it was a crankshaft angle sensor....Turns out they were partially correct....I opened the timing cover and found the crank sensor fried....They had tightened the new idler down on the sensor cord( which would account for 30 minutes runtime).I put a new crank sensor on it and tried to start it....nothing....I thought ok then we are having a problem before the crank so i changed the ign. module....no go...Well Im brainstorming now....i think with no fusible between the crank and ecm it could have burned out the computer.....so I changed it. You might guess what happened.....nothing LOL Has anyone ran across a problem like this? Another thing there is fire going to cam sensor crank sensor ign mod and even to the coils....just nothing coming out. Is the spyder a car that has to use the original key? Im not sure if the keys original or not. Another important detail...The stereo was pulled when i got it...The car (according to VIN) is not supposed to have anti theft or cruise...but it does.
 
Old Mar 21, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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Could you try and structure your sentences and paragraphs better? It makes things a million times easier to read.

You've changed everything I was just about to recommend. At this point, you may want to visually inspect the ECU for damage. Typically fried components show themselves very obviously.
 
Old Mar 22, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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(Could you try and structure your sentences and paragraphs better? It makes things a million times easier to read.) Im Sorry for the lack of punctuation or paragraphing. Im not an English major. I am a tire and service specialist, but I will see what I can do.
I did visually inspect the ECM, but I didnt see anything obvious wrong with it. I replaced it as precautionary because there are so many components in it I figured one could have shorted I might not be able to see it.
It acts to me like a bad crank sensor. It has all the bells and whistles. Headlights, wipers, dash lights, auto windows, everything working. Just no fire to the plugs.
Do you think its possible that both coils would have burned out?
 
Old Mar 22, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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It's very unlikely.

This sounds to me like the ignition control module, but you said you already replaced that.
 
Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Im going to check wiring in and out of the ECM. Its the one place I havnt checked for constant fire going in. Would you know if there would be any relays controlling the fire? Ive read as much information as i can find, but nothing has indicated a relay.
Im afraid im replacing parts and its going to be some unseen burnt wire or unplugged wire. Havnt found anything yet though.
 
Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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i would say check the wiring in the ecu, you said you replaced the timing belt? because if your timing is off that could do it....also do other regular maintence like spark plugs and spark plug wires, make sure wiring is all done right also.
 
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Sounds stupid... but the fuse box? Check over the ignition fuse.
 
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