HP gain
#21
05-24-2006, 02:33 PM
RE: HP gain
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
#22
05-24-2006, 03:18 PM
RE: HP gain
ORIGINAL: nYOfas
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
#23
05-24-2006, 03:19 PM
RE: HP gain
ORIGINAL: slow420a
miata, short ram intake, 5whp
celica gt, aem cai, 6hp gain
neon sxt, cai, 3whp gain
BTW the neon sxy has an a855 motor which shares the same block as a 420a(eclipse gs motor), it just has a sohc head thats more restrictive.
I can go all day with these, and these are lower end gains. My buddys lightning gained 19whp from a cia, v6 acords get around 15whp. Your right how some times intakes suck in hot air, expecially short rams, but even in the case of the miata which was dynoed with a short ram still made a gain.
miata, short ram intake, 5whp
celica gt, aem cai, 6hp gain
neon sxt, cai, 3whp gain
BTW the neon sxy has an a855 motor which shares the same block as a 420a(eclipse gs motor), it just has a sohc head thats more restrictive.
I can go all day with these, and these are lower end gains. My buddys lightning gained 19whp from a cia, v6 acords get around 15whp. Your right how some times intakes suck in hot air, expecially short rams, but even in the case of the miata which was dynoed with a short ram still made a gain.
#24
05-24-2006, 08:58 PM
RE: HP gain
ORIGINAL: eclipsed4u
you will not lose power from sucking in warm air. just having an intake on that is less restrictive than stock will give you a few ponyies, whether you are sucking warm or cold air.
ORIGINAL: nYOfas
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
Sucking in warm air plays a big part in performance. The idea is to pull in the coldest air possible creating more hp b/c the air is more dense. Thats what an intercooler does, cools the incoming air increasing hp.
#25
05-25-2006, 11:52 AM
RE: HP gain
ORIGINAL: Evil1993Eagle
Sucking in warm air plays a big part in performance. The idea is to pull in the coldest air possible creating more hp b/c the air is more dense. Thats what an intercooler does, cools the incoming air increasing hp.
ORIGINAL: eclipsed4u
you will not lose power from sucking in warm air. just having an intake on that is less restrictive than stock will give you a few ponyies, whether you are sucking warm or cold air.
ORIGINAL: nYOfas
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
You guys said earlier that you can lose power if the intake is in a bad spot and sucks in warmer air, well I was wondering with my injen intake, on my 4g63-t, (everyone knows where and how it sits on that motor) if that it sucks in more cold air or warm air?
Sucking in warm air plays a big part in performance. The idea is to pull in the coldest air possible creating more hp b/c the air is more dense. Thats what an intercooler does, cools the incoming air increasing hp.
#26
05-25-2006, 01:33 PM
RE: HP gain
If you notice in one of evil93eagel's posts he mentioned that on the dyno that they did they also added exausts... Now non of the cars that were dynoed were F/I, they were all N/A. My guess is that they disconnected the air box and cayt, to bypass the rest of the exaust and called it an intake and exaust. Now removing the air box is basically like getting an intake in the respect that it removes a restrictive paper filter, but the intake hose is still restrictive. The ripple in the bends cause turbulence in the air, thus making friction, thus making heat. ALSO, N/A motors lose HP from a free flowing exaust... well a exaust too big. N/A motors need back pressure to make hp, where with turbo cars removing the exaust will creat hp by letting the turbo spool up faster. So by just removing a large piece of the exaust and removing back pressure your actually killing N/A hp. That may explain why you saw a loss in numbers... expceially in tq.
#27
05-25-2006, 01:41 PM
RE: HP gain
ORIGINAL: slow420a
If you notice in one of evil93eagel's posts he mentioned that on the dyno that they did they also added exausts... Now non of the cars that were dynoed were F/I, they were all N/A. My guess is that they disconnected the air box and cayt, to bypass the rest of the exaust and called it an intake and exaust. Now removing the air box is basically like getting an intake in the respect that it removes a restrictive paper filter, but the intake hose is still restrictive. The ripple in the bends cause turbulence in the air, thus making friction, thus making heat. ALSO, N/A motors lose HP from a free flowing exaust... well a exaust too big. N/A motors need back pressure to make hp, where with turbo cars removing the exaust will creat hp by letting the turbo spool up faster. So by just removing a large piece of the exaust and removing back pressure your actually killing N/A hp. That may explain why you saw a loss in numbers... expceially in tq.
If you notice in one of evil93eagel's posts he mentioned that on the dyno that they did they also added exausts... Now non of the cars that were dynoed were F/I, they were all N/A. My guess is that they disconnected the air box and cayt, to bypass the rest of the exaust and called it an intake and exaust. Now removing the air box is basically like getting an intake in the respect that it removes a restrictive paper filter, but the intake hose is still restrictive. The ripple in the bends cause turbulence in the air, thus making friction, thus making heat. ALSO, N/A motors lose HP from a free flowing exaust... well a exaust too big. N/A motors need back pressure to make hp, where with turbo cars removing the exaust will creat hp by letting the turbo spool up faster. So by just removing a large piece of the exaust and removing back pressure your actually killing N/A hp. That may explain why you saw a loss in numbers... expceially in tq.
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