Yea I mean I think it really does come down to weight. With and Quaife LSD, Solid Engine mounts and some good stiffening of the rear suspension you can counter act ALOT of the wheel spin so I think that the race would be alright from a traction stand point. But when your are talking 3800lbs vs 3250....I dunno I think the base could take it with some work. I mean heavily Turbo'd Civics with LSD, Suspension work etc can lay down 9's in the quarter. I just think that with FWD you will have to work harder to get the power to the road but I think that it can be done.

 

Bench racing is silly but, check the 3S Quicklist. Other than Chris Hill and JB Huang the rest of the list is on par with what a healthy AWD runs.

btw: Mr3000, once you add the LSD and all the turbo components, your car will not weigh 3250lbs anymore.

edit: Dynamic Racing top 10 list. Only one car in the top 10 is FWD. That should tell you something.

 

i used to have a 98 base and wheel spin happens even with 162hp,,,i now have a 99 vr-4 and ive never spun the wheels out of the launch..i dont race much but i do know that if u want to spin them u can but its a huge strain on the motor out of the launch... my vote goes the the vr-4 vs. the base w/ tt mods...another thing the vr-4 redlines 1000 rpms higher, and has a 6 speed which with my experince will influence the performance.... along with my vote i offer it with this piece of advise... just buy the vr-4

 

I understand what you are saying but first off. The engine is not a DOHC. This is the VR4 engine we are talking about so the stuff about higher rev limiter doesn't apply. This will be a complete swap, engine and tranny. Also you said that I will just spin my tires. That isn't entirely true. If you do the suspension mods(mainly a stiffening of rear suspension), get solid engine mounts and throw in an LSD, a FWD can be coaxed to lay the power down to the road pretty well. I agree with you that AWD is better but I don't agree with your advice to get a VR4. Why? well 1)There are so many people out there who have the FWD version and think that it is worthless b/c it isn't the VR4 and I am out to prove that you can still OWN with the FWD. 2) It defeats the purpose of building a supercar out of a car that wasn't really very super in the first place.....yes it will cost money but at the end, you'll be able to say "I built this beast. I didn't get it this good from the factory". I would say to people who don't already have a 3/s to get a VR4 because it is less money to get it running fast BUT to the people who already have either a base or SL, keep it and make it fast.....that's just my 2 cents...Peace

Oh yea...keep in mind the SL TT's (which would weigh more than a base TT) with the stock 9b's are running basically the same times as a stock VR4 in the quarter. To 60, yea the VR4 will prob beat it due to traction, but after that I think it is pretty much neck and neck....please keep posting with your individual opinions....

 

Not ANOTHER bench racing thread [:'(]

 

i understand what you are saying about just buying a vr-4. its much easier than building a car and much less head ache. but if everyone did this, there would be no more left to buy or go around. i think its cool that people have that much respect for their cars that they want it to be better than something way better off the lot. i think thats cool. any one can buy a fast car but to build your own is something thats pretty awesome. imo.

 

Good post 94, that's exactly what i am saying. Building a car to be unique and one of a kind is priceless.

 

Building up your own car brings more pride to ownership true.... But if you want to know which one is faster- the only way you'll really know is to race one with the other. Bench racing (racing online -ex= Car A modded with ABC+D vs Car B modded with C and D with a shot of N) will not give you any answers.

J

 

true start building that car so i can copy you mr. 3000. and then we'll take our chances against some vr-4's. haha.

 

Sure thing man...I think we could take 'em lol. Yea I decided what I am gonna run. I am going to do a custom port and polish with new cams, a TDO4 Kit, and DR500 turbos running at about 15-17psi. Just give me a couple months to save up some funds and then I will be starting. PEACE!