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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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That musta hurt.
 
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Yes yes... the hurting never stops, lol. Oh well, new motor time. That was like... Summer...
 
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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I cant figure out Why dont you want a short ram the way the 03' lancer set-up is. I belive you would have better performance and effecincy going that way, look at the set-up on intake your intake right infront of the grill and you would save time of annoying intake adjustment. I know your gonna think the lower my air filter is colder the air most casses its not true it more like a conductor cause it would be pushed so far foward it would conduct more heat off your headers than plastic air box.
 
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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Dang, I'm moving from sunny and no rain phoenix to Philly. Do I have to keep short rams then? (08 Lancer)
 
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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- RAMs suck in hot air from the engine bay.
- RAMs are cheaper.
- RAMs will not suck in water unless you're in the river.

- CAIs bypass the hot air and suck in ambient temps.
- CAIs are more expensive.
- CAIs are more effective with hydrolocking a motor in terrential rains (lol, Dusty, sorry about that bro).

RAMs are bought more so than CAIs because of one reason alone and that's pricing. If you want a better intake, CAIs are your best bet. Yes, they are more "tricky" because of possible hydrolock, but....that only happens when the CAI is low enough to be completely covered by water. That's where the bypass valve comes into play. I will say this, if you live in an area where flooding is a normal occurance... don't get a CAI. CAIs suck in ambient air temps, that means it will suck up cooler than the engine bay temps which is better for the motor than what RAMs will suck in.
RAMs actually suck in hotter air than the stock airbox, since the actual box is removed, the filter now has free access to the engine bay air. Does anyone know what hot air does to timing? That's right, it pulls timing and cooler than normal temps adds timing...that's ignition timing btw, not motor timing. Less timing, less performance, more timing more performance....to a point that is.

IMO, a RAM does one thing and that's give the motor a cooler sound from being less restrictive (plus the silencer tubes aren't used). Honestly though, so will a drop in K&N filter with the silencer tube drilled or cut to allow more air in. Just some food for thought.
 
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: silvercoupe97

- RAMs suck in hot air from the engine bay.
- RAMs are cheaper.
- RAMs will not suck in water unless you're in the river.

- CAIs bypass the hot air and suck in ambient temps.
- CAIs are more expensive.
- CAIs are more effective with hydrolocking a motor in terrential rains (lol, Dusty, sorry about that bro).

RAMs are bought more so than CAIs because of one reason alone and that's pricing. If you want a better intake, CAIs are your best bet. Yes, they are more "tricky" because of possible hydrolock, but....that only happens when the CAI is low enough to be completely covered by water. That's where the bypass valve comes into play. I will say this, if you live in an area where flooding is a normal occurance... don't get a CAI. CAIs suck in ambient air temps, that means it will suck up cooler than the engine bay temps which is better for the motor than what RAMs will suck in.
RAMs actually suck in hotter air than the stock airbox, since the actual box is removed, the filter now has free access to the engine bay air. Does anyone know what hot air does to timing? That's right, it pulls timing and cooler than normal temps adds timing...that's ignition timing btw, not motor timing. Less timing, less performance, more timing more performance....to a point that is.

IMO, a RAM does one thing and that's give the motor a cooler sound from being less restrictive (plus the silencer tubes aren't used). Honestly though, so will a drop in K&N filter with the silencer tube drilled or cut to allow more air in. Just some food for thought.
There is some truth points RAMS are cheaper and do suck some hot air. But what you stated right now was Theory. It doesnt go the same for every car like on 4G63t eclipse the cold air intake would bemore superioir cause itavoids headers or anything that may heat it up but on Lancer(non-turbo) SOHC engines The CAI'shas to clear the Trans axle and is moved forwardI would say 5" from headers so CAI is Absorbing some of the Heat from the headers and engine block it self so the Ecm still going to retard the timing due to air being baked. Short ram isnt going to be Soaking up heat.The Lancer has nice open front grill,and is going to be away from the headers and the ambeint air coming in from the lancer grill is going tocooler in the way I see it .The way the engine Is setup should be taken into consideration cause that theroy may not have same output for every car each car unique in a good or bad way
 
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