Frustrated at engineers
ORIGINAL: yinglingj
Paddle shifters are cool, but I'm a 38 year old married guy more interested in fuel economy than "sport driving". I would also suggest that someone that is a "sport" driver is more interested in an Eclipse than a crossover. I think this feature is probably wasted on this audience. (I am speaking in generalizations here and am sure that there are some that disagree.) Anyway my point here is that they put some pretty high end and expensive options on these while leaving out a few of the more common stuff.
Paddle shifters are cool, but I'm a 38 year old married guy more interested in fuel economy than "sport driving". I would also suggest that someone that is a "sport" driver is more interested in an Eclipse than a crossover. I think this feature is probably wasted on this audience. (I am speaking in generalizations here and am sure that there are some that disagree.) Anyway my point here is that they put some pretty high end and expensive options on these while leaving out a few of the more common stuff.
2. Mitsubishi has always been focused on "sportiness" of their product, even for a crossover, or even for their electric vehicles. Motorsports has always been in the heart of Mitsubishi, and it transcends into their products. If fuel economy is your thing, you should have probably looked at Honda or Toyota.
3. We cannot make a general statement about car design, because if we can then we might as well make general statements about wives or girlfriends. AFAIK, the 2nd Gen Outlander has been commented as "lame" among other adjectives I can't mention, and so is the Evo X before these were production cars. But so far these two models including the Lancer has been selling well beyond Mitsubishi's expectations.
just an FYI..
the 2009 is available with light sensing lights and rain sensing wipers.
Sincethe '09's added some stuff, looks like I wasn't to far off base in wishing for this anyway. Doesn't look like I'm winning friends or inflencing people on this board
P.S. rcpax, my MPG rivals both Toyota and Honda, with far superior styling. That along withMitsubishi's high qualityis whyI chose to replace my Mitsi Diamante with another Mitsi. Believe me, I am a fan (this is my 4th overall Mitsi), just was puzzled by a few things. That's all.[8D]
Two basic features I would've liked to see standard on the Outlander:
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
Apart from these basic omissions (duh...), I would've liked to have (nice to have):
1. Auto lights - AFIK none of the direct competitors have it, but I would greatly appreciate it.
2. Heated wiper blades - Some competitors have it and I find it a very useful feature for cold areas.
I don't care for:
1. Rain sensing wipers - I have them in my other car andthey only works well in certain conditions.
2. Heated cloth seats - not necessary and it wouldn't score with me.
There are other little things Mtisu left out like lining the coin holder, the inner door handles, front cup holders and storage places, but those could be easily fixed (which I did).
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
Apart from these basic omissions (duh...), I would've liked to have (nice to have):
1. Auto lights - AFIK none of the direct competitors have it, but I would greatly appreciate it.
2. Heated wiper blades - Some competitors have it and I find it a very useful feature for cold areas.
I don't care for:
1. Rain sensing wipers - I have them in my other car andthey only works well in certain conditions.
2. Heated cloth seats - not necessary and it wouldn't score with me.
There are other little things Mtisu left out like lining the coin holder, the inner door handles, front cup holders and storage places, but those could be easily fixed (which I did).
ORIGINAL: dodo2
Two basic features I would've liked to see standard on the Outlander:
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
Two basic features I would've liked to see standard on the Outlander:
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
ORIGINAL: rcpax
These are two features Mitsubishi never bothered putting in their vehicles, ever, AFAIK. I have yet to see a Mitsubishi with those features.
ORIGINAL: dodo2
Two basic features I would've liked to see standard on the Outlander:
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
Two basic features I would've liked to see standard on the Outlander:
1. Low Washer Fluid Indicator - very cheap and useful itemand all direct competitors have it
2. Telescopic steering wheel - most competitors have it standard and some have it available in higher trims.
More manufacturers are making the telescopic steering wheel standard every year and Mitsu should get with the program.
The other feature was standard in the cars for decades. I didn't even bother to check it out before I bought the car because I took it for granted (and it wouldn't be a deal breaker anyway).
some of you really crack me up.
Auto-on headlights? Really? Try this little technique. When it gets dark outside, reach over and turn the headlight ****.
VIOLA! problem solved.
and a low washer fluid light? are you serious? Mitsu had one on many cars 2 decades ago, then realized "hey, this is a stupid waste of money... People should be smart enough to open their hood and look!"
apparently people arent.
How so some of you function in modern society? Do you need someone else to take care of everything that you need to do?
there are options that are useful, then options that are not. Even though mitsu has installed the auto-on headlights, I personally think that is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever spent on engineering.
Auto-on headlights? Really? Try this little technique. When it gets dark outside, reach over and turn the headlight ****.
VIOLA! problem solved.
and a low washer fluid light? are you serious? Mitsu had one on many cars 2 decades ago, then realized "hey, this is a stupid waste of money... People should be smart enough to open their hood and look!"
apparently people arent.
How so some of you function in modern society? Do you need someone else to take care of everything that you need to do?
there are options that are useful, then options that are not. Even though mitsu has installed the auto-on headlights, I personally think that is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever spent on engineering.
ALL I WANT is:
Alloy Nudge Bar
"Hella" Driving Lights
Hood Protector
Headlight Protectors
Rubber Floor Mats
Neoprene Seat Covers
Roof Racks (the cross set)
Surfboard (aluminum bars for the trunk)
Included as a standard, just like the Australian model and I'll be happy.
Alloy Nudge Bar
"Hella" Driving Lights
Hood Protector
Headlight Protectors
Rubber Floor Mats
Neoprene Seat Covers
Roof Racks (the cross set)
Surfboard (aluminum bars for the trunk)
Included as a standard, just like the Australian model and I'll be happy.
ORIGINAL: Manybrews
some of you really crack me up.
Auto-on headlights? Really? Try this little technique. When it gets dark outside, reach over and turn the headlight ****.
VIOLA! problem solved.
and a low washer fluid light? are you serious? Mitsu had one on many cars 2 decades ago, then realized "hey, this is a stupid waste of money... People should be smart enough to open their hood and look!"
apparently people arent.
How so some of you function in modern society? Do you need someone else to take care of everything that you need to do?
there are options that are useful, then options that are not. Even though mitsu has installed the auto-on headlights, I personally think that is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever spent on engineering.
some of you really crack me up.
Auto-on headlights? Really? Try this little technique. When it gets dark outside, reach over and turn the headlight ****.
VIOLA! problem solved.
and a low washer fluid light? are you serious? Mitsu had one on many cars 2 decades ago, then realized "hey, this is a stupid waste of money... People should be smart enough to open their hood and look!"
apparently people arent.
How so some of you function in modern society? Do you need someone else to take care of everything that you need to do?
there are options that are useful, then options that are not. Even though mitsu has installed the auto-on headlights, I personally think that is one of the dumbest wastes of money ever spent on engineering.
Re: Low washer fluid indicator
I find it a very useful feature as it could prevent running out of washer fluid when you need it. There is nothing to look at under the hoodto determine if you have 90% left or 1% left. The work around is to routinely fill up the tank, which can be alleviated by the said indicator. Simple and useful.
Where I live, in winter time,is essential to be able to wash your windshield and running out in some cases is not a pleasant thing. I have a lot more things to worry about on a daily basis and forgetting to refill the washer fluid could happen. Having a reminder would get my attention and it would make me act on it.
Re: Auto lights
This is more of a convenience feature and I would rather have it than not. I for one, would value this feature more than let's say redundant paddle shifters or even keyless ignition.
Yes, I live without those two features, but I would prefer to have them. More so,I could leave without 90% of the comfort features found in modern vehicles, but that's not the point.


