Rear fog lights/lamp
As I mentioned, that's a great find. However, nobody seems to want to join me in finding where the rear fog light wire (light green on connector C-311 on previous page) terminates and where to extend it.
My guess is somewhere near the 2nd row driver side wiring tunnel (right beside left foot of driver side passenger). I will look again when I have some time, I will order the device.
My guess is somewhere near the 2nd row driver side wiring tunnel (right beside left foot of driver side passenger). I will look again when I have some time, I will order the device.
As I mentioned, that's a great find. However, nobody seems to want to join me in finding where the rear fog light wire (light green on connector C-311 on previous page) terminates and where to extend it.
My guess is somewhere near the 2nd row driver side wiring tunnel (right beside left foot of driver side passenger). I will look again when I have some time, I will order the device.
My guess is somewhere near the 2nd row driver side wiring tunnel (right beside left foot of driver side passenger). I will look again when I have some time, I will order the device.
The •Emergency Stop signal System (ESS) feature is currently available on the UK Outlander Juro. http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/out...nger-home.aspx
I wonder if this is something tha't easily added?? Any ideas?
I wonder if this is something tha't easily added?? Any ideas?
In order to find the connectors for rear fog light assemblage you may need to disassemble the segment above the rear wheel cover + combination lamps (?) + subwoofer assemblage + side marker lamps. You will also need to disassemble the rear bumper to add or replace the modified side marker lamps with the rear fog bulb included.
The European Outlander offers you the alternative of switching on the front rear fog light without simultaneously switching on the rear fog light. That is why a second turn of the stalk switch at the steering wheel will switch on the rear fog light. The front fog light can be “on” on very dark nights without incurring penalties. Nobody will complain even the police.
Your approach of using the American stalk switch while in operation will light both fogs, i.e. front and rear.
I realized that connection F-17 (American version) had many wires (16-pins) coming from the ETACS-ECU and just a few coming out (4-6 pins) in the direction of the rear bumper wiring harness. I decided to use a wire that did not have a corresponding wire to the rear bumper harness. I took the decision to use the wire that it was an orphan and not used to activate the rear park assist sensors which in my 2010 GT was not an option (it is an option in the 2012).
I worked with the ETACS-ECU and attach the wire so pin#14 was not empty anymore. The current moves through this wire to the rear of the car.
I use MUT-III machine (dealer) to tell the ETACS-ECU that a rear fog light was available. The results was that it works but unfortunately it seemed that the control electronic circuit cluster (map) does not have any track to carry current to activate the rear fog LED indicator in the instrumentation cluster.
At the moment, I am projecting to use an external rear fog switch that will withdraw a small current from the wire on pin# 14 to light the switch spot “amber” when activated with a push (button). European stalk switch will not be needed.
Other approach is to use wireless rear fog light. A switch fob is fitted on any of those spare “dummy” switches to activate a control receiver fitted in the rear bumper which will close when the fob is activated. The current for the rear fog light will come from the current going to the combination lights (brake light). With this approach there is no need to manipulate the ETACS-ECU, no need to run a wire under the floor carpet, and there is no need to disassemble the rear of the car just to look for connector F-22 (EU version) or connector F-17 (American version).
The European Outlander offers you the alternative of switching on the front rear fog light without simultaneously switching on the rear fog light. That is why a second turn of the stalk switch at the steering wheel will switch on the rear fog light. The front fog light can be “on” on very dark nights without incurring penalties. Nobody will complain even the police.
Your approach of using the American stalk switch while in operation will light both fogs, i.e. front and rear.
I realized that connection F-17 (American version) had many wires (16-pins) coming from the ETACS-ECU and just a few coming out (4-6 pins) in the direction of the rear bumper wiring harness. I decided to use a wire that did not have a corresponding wire to the rear bumper harness. I took the decision to use the wire that it was an orphan and not used to activate the rear park assist sensors which in my 2010 GT was not an option (it is an option in the 2012).
I worked with the ETACS-ECU and attach the wire so pin#14 was not empty anymore. The current moves through this wire to the rear of the car.
I use MUT-III machine (dealer) to tell the ETACS-ECU that a rear fog light was available. The results was that it works but unfortunately it seemed that the control electronic circuit cluster (map) does not have any track to carry current to activate the rear fog LED indicator in the instrumentation cluster.
At the moment, I am projecting to use an external rear fog switch that will withdraw a small current from the wire on pin# 14 to light the switch spot “amber” when activated with a push (button). European stalk switch will not be needed.
Other approach is to use wireless rear fog light. A switch fob is fitted on any of those spare “dummy” switches to activate a control receiver fitted in the rear bumper which will close when the fob is activated. The current for the rear fog light will come from the current going to the combination lights (brake light). With this approach there is no need to manipulate the ETACS-ECU, no need to run a wire under the floor carpet, and there is no need to disassemble the rear of the car just to look for connector F-22 (EU version) or connector F-17 (American version).
Last edited by batman47; Nov 20, 2011 at 07:04 AM.
The statement "European stalk switch will not be needed." is wrong!
The stalk switch (European) will be still needed to energize wire pin#14 in C-311. Only by bypassing the ETACS-ECU is it possible to use an individual switch on the driver’s side (dash panel) that will light LED amber when switched ON.
The stalk switch (European) will be still needed to energize wire pin#14 in C-311. Only by bypassing the ETACS-ECU is it possible to use an individual switch on the driver’s side (dash panel) that will light LED amber when switched ON.
The statement "European stalk switch will not be needed." is wrong!
The stalk switch (European) will be still needed to energize wire pin#14 in C-311. Only by bypassing the ETACS-ECU is it possible to use an individual switch on the driver’s side (dash panel) that will light LED amber when switched ON.
The stalk switch (European) will be still needed to energize wire pin#14 in C-311. Only by bypassing the ETACS-ECU is it possible to use an individual switch on the driver’s side (dash panel) that will light LED amber when switched ON.
At least on my Canadian 2010 Outlander XLS, not sure if US Outlanders are the same.
All you need is to activate rear fogs in ETACS, and connect pin 14 of C-311 connector (longest one behind coin box) to the positive terminal of rear fog lamps. On my Outlander there was no pin, just an empty slot, so I need to install new wire all the way to the rear fogs.
To have cluster indication working you need to solder missing LED (or Euro cluster).
Here is small video where I connected a LED strip to that pin and was able to control it by rotating fog light fob.
Fogs by stalk switch - YouTube
Last edited by Vadimus; Jun 25, 2012 at 10:33 PM.
Great, thanks for confirming. I gave on this a few months back when I noticed it wasn't wired from the ETACS ECU pin. It shouldn't be too bad to get it to work now, as running a wire isn't too difficult.
Is the current coming from that pin sufficient to power the fog lights, or is it meant to power a relay?
Is the current coming from that pin sufficient to power the fog lights, or is it meant to power a relay?


