Glad I can help.

 

I have same result as Zapp7 video, exactly the process and failed screen on my 2012 Outlander and TS508.
(I hope you are enjoying your car since you have not come back?)

But my car is throwing DTC code (4) that it is not seeing all 4 sensors, that's why I am down this route of trying to reprogram things with Autel.
But at this point I am also thinking even though TPMS scan tools picked up the sensors, there is a problem for the car to communicate to the sensors, as if the sensors are not there.

I have tried Autel and Launch tool upload both failed. It seems the relearning at some point will "ask" the receiver on the car to connect to the 4 sensors. The receiver/ECU cannot find these sensors, and
it takes so long (it gives them time to wake) because it cannot find the sensors! All 4 needs to be good and talking.

What happens I think is the scan tool makers cracked/figured out the code to ask the receiver to wake the TPMS, therefore no need to go trigger it with a second scan tool (e.g. MitsuReset which is almost the same price and only works on Mitsu, is obsolete by now)

After I saw his post, I placed my summer tires with known good, (no throwing code) sensors against the tires on the car, with the valve facing closest to the fenders to make it closest to the car as possible. Since the winter tires appear dead to the car, they have no interference)

I try to relearn again. The uploading only takes 2 seconds. The codes are also cleared automatically. When the code are active it is not able to remove the code.
So the Autel works. The universal sensors I have does not work with the car somehow. Even though selected 4250B975 for programming which was the sensor inside the car


So to summerize

- The TS508 does work for relearning but requires working sensors. Then it is very quick upload like Jonathan's video, all 4 sensors have to be ready to come online. Maybe a requirement to pressurize them to the correct level.

- It can be done each time tire rotation as well, my Mitsu just finds the tire after rotation, but by relearning then the computer does not go through searching the tires. (reducing chance of DTC which is hard to get ride of see below)

- TPMS DTC cannot be cleared if they are "active".

- Relearning process only if successful seems to clear the DTCs, I when and hit clear just in case.

- that means if TPMS DTC comes active, to clear it you would need to use a tool to relearn, with a working set of sensors installed. Clear doesn't work on the tools if it is active.
Also the car could possibly clear itself if the sensor matched.

- MitsuReset is outdated technology.

- if you have the tool that can relearn, I recommend just programming different set instead of cloning. Sometimes my car will pickup the clone sensor sitting my garage as I drive off and I would either give me a TPMS service or low tire pressure that is not the tire running on the car.

 

From Jonathan's recommendation I bought the TS508.
What I find you can do is to just put your new sensors on top of each tire and do a relearn with it first. If it is successful then it means it's compatible with your car. Then go ahead and install them in the wheel.

Don't go clone 4 sensors thinking it's going to work, if it does not then you have a lot of work to redo everything.

 

I'm having a similar issue as above with my 2017 Outlander SEL. Had new tires and TPMS sensors installed by a reputable shop. They were unable to get the tpms sensors to be accepted by the ecu so now the "service TPMS system" light is on the dash. They said they cloned the existing sensors and that all 4 are working and transmitting a signal to their service tool (I believe they are using an Autel product). However, the sensors' signal does not appear to be able to be picked up by the tpms receiver in the car. The shop claims they called a service rep from. Autell and still couldn't figure it out. So now they have offered, just remove the sensors and refund my money. I'm not sure what sensors they are using (it they are Autel brand or not). As mentioned before, this is a reputable shop and I have no reason to doubt them.

I had a different repair shop inspect my car as that is required in Pennsylvania annually. I asked them to see if they could reprogram the sensors (or do whatever it took to get them to be compatible with the car) and they also were unable to do so. They offered to put a different set of sensors and use their tool but couldn't guarantee me this would work.

My thought was to buy Autell sensors and take them to the tire shop. I read a post above where it said you can just place them on top of the tire and do a relearn before actually installing them. If the relearn works, then you know it will be worthwhile, installing them.

Any suggestions on what I can do to make this work for a reasonable amount of money? I called the dealer and they wanted $800 to install and program oem sensors!

 

That's an interesting problem. Let's start with the Autel MaxiTPMS tool itself, like the TS508WF. After you register and update your tool, select "Advanced Mode," then the make, model, and year of the vehicle you're working on (i.e.: Mitsubishi > Outlander > 10/2007-12/2017 (315 MHz)). If you're planning to use a set of four Autel MX 1-Sensors, select "Sensor Programming," then "Auto Create 1-16 Sensors." (FULL DISCLOSURE: All Autel MaxiTPMS products made after September 2023 utilized only two MX-Sensor programming options: Copy by OBD and Auto Create) Once the sensors are configured with new IDs, go back from "Sensor Programming" option and select "Position Relearn." After that point, or if you're using a set of new OEM sensors, select "OBD relearn." Trigger the sensors in a clockwise orientation starting from the left-front wheel, and ending it with the left-rear wheel. If your Outlander has a temporary spare tire and the tool requires you to activate the spare tire, trigger it and cancel. With all wheel triggered, plug the tool into the car's OBD port. Knowing your Outlander SEL has push-button start, press the ignition button twice without touching the brake pedal. Press the Y button to start and follow the on-screen prompts. I left a video several posts earlier on how I did an OBD relearn on a customer's 2020 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. The only difference between the two Outlanders is the availability of the temporary spare tire.


But if the OBD relearn procedures fail, then I suspect the TPMS receiver may be faulty. Something I can't fix other than the dealership. Keep us posted on how it turns out.

 

Thanks for the detailed reply. I don't have an Autel tool but the tire shop I used does so I can show them your post. I would think they have a higher end model. I also don't know what brand sensors they installed in my new tires. Do you think it would be worthwhile to have them do a AutoCreate on the sensors that are currently installed? When they installed them they cloned the previous sensors and did not do a AutoCreate process. Can you do the AutoCreate on sensors that already had RFIDs copied onto them?

I'm OK with the $160 I already spent on new sensors. However, I don't want to throw any more money at this. Going to the dealer for $800 in OEM sensors is not an option. The tire shop has already agreed to take out the the sensors they installed and refund my money. My thought was to buy a set of Autel sensors (assuming the existing sensors are not Autel brand) from Amazon and have the shop try to do a AutoCreate process on those sensors before installing them. If the car accepts the new sensors then the shop can just swap them out and refund my money so it will be a wash. If the AutoCreate/re-learn doesn't work then I'll just return the sensors. They can remove their sensors and I'll just go without any.

I just got this car. I drove it for 2 weeks and there was just a TMPS light on in the speedometer cluster (tire pressure warning light). Immediately after getting new tires and sensors, the "service tire pressure monitor system" light came on in the central info display area - this happened within the first 10 miles of driving after installation. I suppose the TPMS receiver could be faulty but what a coincidence it would be if it died the very same day new tires/sensors were installed. The tire pressure warning light is still on in the speedo cluster and the TPMS "reset" option is grayed out in the service menu.

 

If the sensors installed in the tires are made by Autel, it can be reprogrammed by Auto Create (as long as the tires are set to zero pressure - 0 psi/kPa). And if the guys at the shop you're visiting uses an Autel MaxiTPMS iTS600, then there may one extra step on the vehicle's OBD relearn procedure, something I haven't experienced with the TS508/TS508WF. Here's an excerpt from the tool's user manual:

4.7.1.2 OBD-Assisted Relearn

The MaxiTPMS tablet can also perform an OBD-Assisted Relearn session directly. Some vehicles relearn procedure require that a tool be always connected to the vehicle while another tool be used to trigger the sensor at the wheel. Since the tablet wirelessly communicates with vehicles, it can be used to trigger wheel-mounted sensors while still being connected with the vehicle eliminating the need for a second tool. The sensor IDs are then relearned to the vehicle.

To make a long story short, even with the VCI Bluetooth dongle is paired up with the iTS600 and connected to the car's OBD port, the sensors would have to be re-triggered by the same tool itself after performing an OBD relearn. I'll bring the iTS600 to my workplace, and if there's an opportunity to do a TPMS relearn on a Mitsubishi Outlander that rolls up with a TPMS problem, I'll let you know first thing as soon as I get the chance.

 

Thanks again. 2 follow-up questions:

1.) "Set to zero" as in pull the valve cores amd completely deflate the tires?

2.) Assuming the current sensors are NOT made by Autel, will it be possible to know for certain that new Autel sensors (provided by me) will work before installing them? Would you recommend doing the AutoCreate or try to clone again?

 

On the first question you asked, yes. The tires must be fully deflated to 0 psi/kPa if you're planning to reprogram the TPMS sensors properly. On the second question about the Autel MX 1-Sensors you're providing to the repair shop, all Autel MX 1-Sensors come blank out of the factory. If the techs over there has an Autel MaxiTPMS tool, I recommend using Auto Create to program new sensor IDs into those sensors.

 

Thanks again. Last questions (I hope!):

My recommendation to the tire shop will be to utilize the autocreate procedure on the new Autel MX sensors with them uninstalled. After they are configured with autocreate, can the relearn procedure also be performed with the sensors just sitting on top of the tires, but not actually installed? If so, will the current sensors interfere with this process if they are still installed in the tires?

Ideally, I would like them to do the autocrate process and the relearn process with the Autel sensors just sitting on top of the tires and the current sensors in place inside the tire. This way, they'll know the Autel sensors will work and can then dismount the tires from the rim, take out the current sensors and install the newly programmed Autel sensors.