Im not gonna comment directly hahaha but yeah josh you opened up pandora's box, its has its extreme bad side and its good side, personally im really against it, and not for the reasons that hatchetman stated above, but the fairly simple reason that it will undecimately condonde one way or another promiscuity to a degree where no care is taken, i aslo understand the situation of each person, but in some cases, adoption would seem to be a failry good option, these are just my 2 cents and everyone has theyr own way on seeing things.

 

Theres over 10,000 children waiting to be adopted in the country (worldwide, the numbers are astoundingly disturbing).
I think the "i'll put it up for adoption instead of abortion" gimmick is just as bad.
I understand where some call abortion murder, but yet I still find them to be completely misinformed. An UNBORN child is just that, unborn. They say life starts at birth. If you have a street hooker coke baby, as horrible as it is to say, the child would be better off dead. A fetus does not feel, it does not think, it does not percieve, it does not have rights IMO b/cit is not a living breathing functioning human being. There are plenty of parents that bear children everyday that want their child. They chose to have a baby, some mothers did not and wish they had taken the route of abortion. But they did'nt, and now they're a single mom working 2 jobs at the gas station and Subway just so they can make rent and buy diapers.
Thats no way to live.

Life is about choice.
Everyone has the right to choose whats best for them and their dependents, born or unborn.


*end rant*

 

True true, you have really valid points, i gotta admit so, but we go back to the discussion that has been going on forever haha, youd be amazed how many fights have been started about when does life start, if its a the moment of being born, or if its at the moment of conception/fertilization.... this is actually an interesting topic to discuss as long as it doesnt turn into ww3 XD

 

but if josh is right and a fetus cant feel, think, or anything like that... how can you say that life as begun? if it cant feel/think, why ruin an unwealthy singlemothers life with a child she dot want when it can be prevented? life should start when its breathin on its own, eatin on its own, livin on its own... if you wanna backtrack beyond the things that really show life, some would say u can go back to when the sperm cell is created, sound rediculous but think, the sperm cell is a living organism, and is what fertalizes the egg.... (it remind me of when ppl try to blame something on someone else by takin it back farther... for ex. boy leaves crayons out, girl draws on walls.... mom yells at girl, she says its boys fault for leavin them out) haha, it reminded me of that so i had to say it...

 

LOL good point right there haha, youve got a REALLY good point, but then again, breathing on its own, granted, eating on its own... hardly, thats why we are mammals, living on its own... well.... im gonna go ahead and say myself that im not pro any of both ideals, nor conception, nor birth, for me life starts when the heart actually starts beating... as about feeling... they can feel, theres this video that was showed in a lot of places of a fetus being killed in an abortion and the lil thing tried to defend himself in a weird way.... its kinda touching, gross and hurtful to see... but yeah....

 

ok, i got another related topic to bring up... what about stem cell reserch? whats ur belief on that? cuz if it can cure things nothing else can, do you think thats right?

 

in the case of the rape victim...this is very close to home...my mother was raped. and she too honestly believes you should STILL have the child. It is not the childs fault. Also we are not animals...we are human beings we don't need to play god and "control" the species...god has a plan and purpose for people in general. We are doing no good by murdering children before they have a chance to be anything. it is murder plain and simple. i think that the so called "open minded" people are really ignorant if they truley belive that it is right to destroy an inocent human life becouse some **** got knocked up at 16.

 

OOOO nice one, props for that hatchet... Most people are against it because of the fact that they believe that life starts at the conception, even if its invitro... PERSONALLY and honestly i never thought about, but i myself am more about the law of the jungle, i think that only the capable and fit should survive (even if it sounds cruel on my behalf, i hear it all the time..) so im VERY supportive of medicine and alternative cures, so basically i dont see the point on stem cell research when im pretty sure a plant up there in the amazonas on the tibet can cure diseases like cancer... but if i had to actually give an opinion to it... id say... wow... you got me thinking here.... im still on the same opinion, life starts at the heartbeat... what im wondering though now that you mention is... why embryos? why cant they not research on i dunno... sick tissue, or alive tissues, you know, extracting samples for people

 

VERY VERY VERY valid point, specially in the end....

 

I also want to state that the title of this thread is quite uneducated...im a ****ing idiot becouse i believe every living being has the right to live.