and why does everyone say its murder.... its NOT murder. do you know what murder means? its the act of killin a human being under conditions covered by law...... abortion is not against the law. so its not murder... if anything, you could call it a homicide, thats a human being killin a human being btw...

 

becouse it is murder.... also no it WONT ruin your life. Unless you are mentally retarded you can let it ruin your life or live your life with it well.

 

her sister told us we can stay at her house if we need to...just pay a little rent. two 16 year olds working could take care of a child...not to mention all the "car" money i have saved...i am just analysing this situation...i do not plan to have kids till im 30.

 

its murder yo!!!! lets look at it like this....

(just an example)
say the baby is born and islike 5 or so and is playn in the street(just an example) and the mother decides hey i dont want this baby nemore so she tells a complete stranger to run over the kid and kill him or her, would that be okor would it be murder cuz its basiclly the same thing as abortion and maybe its legal but look at the retards thats running this country and youll understand why it is!!

 

technicaly its not murder... cuz killin a 5 year old is against the law... abortion isnt.. and once again, murder means to kill a human under conditions COVERED by law, which abortion isnt, so once again.. its not murder, its homicide... and how can you say if it will or wont ruin a life? theres BILLIONS of ppl in this world.. how do you know if a child will ruin there life or not? im pretty sure out of the billions there are, a child could ruin one of there lifes, cuz in some rape senarios, ppl do go insane... doesnt that count? im not sayin im for abortion, cuz im not. its way overused and looked at as an escape route.. but we do need it for the once in a lifetime senarios that do happened everynow and then... i would even help fight to reduce it, but i think we need it to be leagal.

 

Technically speaking hes right.... haha, but im gonna play devils advocate just like the stealth did and ask... hatchet, the possibility of life, the miracle some call it, a creature who hasnt done anything, could be blamed for ruinning a life? in all 3 scenarios, rape, accident, promiscuity.... 2nd, ok Billions of people in the world, does that mean that some equal less than others?. and david, would you keep a child that was yours, even though you knew the meaning of so? (no car, no parties, and start looking for a job).
This thread is interesting, the discussions are, but its time for me to bring the high card, each one of your responses is solidly based on morals, culture, experiences, and taughts, keep that in mind when discussing it, we are all different, and we are not worth higher than anyone else =) who are we to choose at times? who are we to not be able to be free at times?

 

im up for abortion on this thread any abortionist with me!! lol

 

you know your right... its so hard to say a child could ruin ur life.. i totaly agree with u there, and no way in hell could a child ruin mine. i would love to have a child, id much much rather wait till later on in life, but if my lady got pregnant theres no way i would let her get an abortion, and no way it would go up for adoption. i totaly agree with you. but you know we do have those ppl that live just for parties and sh*t... theres the criminals who just dont care for there child and the child ends up being a low life or a criminal himself.. you cant ask ppl in here what they would do cuz every person ive met in this forum is the type of person who would never dream of ruinin an inosent life. i cant say i met anyone on here i dont like, it seemslike a big family, but you gotta look at the negative ppl we have in this world. there are ppl so low that they would blame the failure of there life on a child they didnt plan for, you know thats true and its sad.

 

to answer the question...yes i put my girlfriend before anything and i would put my child before anything...oh and i dont party...i have ambition lol