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So my car died and I dont know why it wont start...

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Old 02-23-2009, 01:17 AM
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So I am selling my 97 eclipse gst with 98000 miles and I had some guy come test drive it to possibly buy it only he didnt tell me he didnt know how to drive stick well. He gets in and has three stupid stalls including one where he revved up to like 7500 rpm and dropped the clutch! Im about to tell him to get the hell out before the car stalls again including the lights turning off. So now it doesnt start back up like the other times and I check and the battery cable is loose around the terminal so I wiggle it around and the car's lights turned back on...problem solved?... so we try again and it still doesnt turn over and not even one fire from the pistons just the sound of the starter. We towed it back but I dont know what happened? I checked all the fuses but did something short out? crankshaft or camshaft sensor? The starter is fine and most of the other stuff looks fine as well. Only thing I know is that Ive had a messed up piston ring that I havnt replaced yet and car would also shoot out clouds of white smoke. tachometer hasnt really worked for a while but thats about it. Im going to do a compression check and check the voltage on the camshaft, crankshaft, and anything else I can figure out but any other ideas? sorry for the long post but its a long story lol.
 
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:03 AM
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Well good luck doing a compression test on a motor that doesnt turn over, haha. Its not gonna be that.
 
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:56 AM
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check your ecu.
 
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:13 PM
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Stupid Question....but what voltage are you getting from the battery? Maybe try and jump start it.
 
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:31 AM
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So compression was fine it had no spark tho and when I opened the fuel line it wasn't pressurized and just poured out into a bottle when I cranked it. We went out for a while (I had already plugged back in the line) and when I came back, I borrowed my friends scan tool and checked for error codes, cleared all dtcs and the car started perfectly. We take it out and as soon as I rev it above 5 and a half k, it stalls out and won't turn back on. I'm sitting in the car waitin for the tow truck and my friend brought down the scan tool, cleared it and it won't start. I'm ganna check the fuel line again but anyone know what the he'll is going on? I'm guessing a sensor because also the tachometer starts going crazy when it stalled just like last time. I'm pretty sure it's not the ecu but so
ething that's telling the ecu to shut off the car. I don't know tho, any other ideas?
 
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Old 02-24-2009, 03:02 AM
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Also, the scan tool told me my fuel system is half status with an open loop due to driving conditions which makes me think maybe a sensor is not letting the car get enough fuel over a certain rpm. Please guys help me! What do I need to do to get this thing running???? This is the reading I got if it helps any:

Monday,23,February,2009,21:41:27:10538
VCDS Release 805.2: Generic OBD2
Freeze Frame Data for address 00
PID02 DTC that caused freeze frame data storage: P0325
PID03 Fuel system 1/2 status: Open loop, due to driving conditions
PID04 Calculated load value: 98.0 %
PID05 Engine coolant temperature: 70 °C
PID06 Short Term Trim - Bank 1: 0.0 %
PID07 Long Term Trim - Bank 1: 0.0 %
PID12 Engine RPM: 3416 /min
PID13 Vehicle speed: 43 km/h

Monday,23,February,2009,21:43:12:10538
VCDS Release 805.2: Generic OBD2
TID 01 - Rich to lean sensor threshold voltage Test:0.520 V
TID 02 - Lean to rich sensor threshold voltage Test:0.520 V
TID 03 - Low sensor voltage for switch time calculation N/A
TID 04 - High sensor voltage for switch time calculation Test:0.560 V
TID 05 - Rich to lean sensor switch time N/A
TID 06 - Lean to rich sensor switch time Test:0.076 s - Min:0.000 s - Max:1.020 s
TID 07 - Minimum sensor voltage for test cycle N/A
TID 08 - Maximum sensor voltage for test cycle N/A
TID 09 - Time between sensor transitions N/A
TID 10 - Sensor period N/A
 
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:52 AM
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if you can try to put your ecu on a different car and see what it does. my friend kinda had the same problem. that's why i say it would be your ecu
 
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Old 02-26-2009, 02:27 AM
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figured it out, wow do I feel stupid. I bought a new ecu, ignition coils, did a bunch of stuff... It was the plug up top towards the back that was unplugged. I guess it controls spark and because it was such a ruff stall I thought it had to be something bigger lol but turns out the clip was broken and it just wiggled loose. I didnt notice it cause it wasnt fully out, just a little too pushed up. Thanks tho guys.
 
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:57 AM
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Where did it plug in, just so i know what it was for future reference and help to others. Sounds like maybe it was the map sensor. But im not sure where your talking
 
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:08 AM
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I actually dont know what the plug is called but if this helps where it says 16 valve on the engine, if you follow the top right corner of the V , straight up maybe 3 or 4 inches, its the kinda wide plug. Hope that helps.
 
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