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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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@TatayNiAndy, I've updated post #54 with all you need to know.

I just got taken off "probation" by Earl Vadimus and now have my usual 2 saves per day again. Like I said, don't even think about f'n around and skirting rules. I did it accidentally, and I still got punished! He was reasonable about the mistake though. So far in addition to the DRL's (parking LED's now, edited post #54 above), I've modified the seat belt chime, door lock logic, and attempting more too. This has opened a whole new world of possibilities!
 
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by theSaint024
@TatayNiAndy, I've updated post #54 with all you need to know.

I just got taken off "probation" by Earl Vadimus and now have my usual 2 saves per day again. Like I said, don't even think about f'n around and skirting rules. I did it accidentally, and I still got punished! He was reasonable about the mistake though. So far in addition to the DRL's (parking LED's now, edited post #54 above), I've modified the seat belt chime, door lock logic, and attempting more too. This has opened a whole new world of possibilities!
Wait, you figured the auto door lock too? Are we talking about auto door lock when vehicle is moving?


Also for the seatbelt warning, just curious what wrong was the factory default?
 

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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by guxu
Wait, you figured the auto door lock too? Are we talking about auto door lock when vehicle is moving?


Also for the seatbelt warning, just curious what wrong was the factory default?
Yes! Doors now autolock once the car gets moving above 20kph. The setting is in ETACS Variant #113. I also have all doors unlock when the car is turned off, ETACS Variant #16. Variant numbers are only relevant to the 2016. Other years and models may vary. As for the seatbelt warning, I didn't want another reminder that the seatbelt was off. The dash display is still there. Sometimes on short drives down the driveway or just idling when starting for whatever reason, I didn't want constant chiming. All of this is relatively easy once you successfully get your first setting changed. Let me know how it goes.
 
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by theSaint024
Yes! Doors now autolock once the car gets moving above 20kph. The setting is in ETACS Variant #113. I also have all doors unlock when the car is turned off, ETACS Variant #16. Variant numbers are only relevant to the 2016. Other years and models may vary. As for the seatbelt warning, I didn't want another reminder that the seatbelt was off. The dash display is still there. Sometimes on short drives down the driveway or just idling when starting for whatever reason, I didn't want constant chiming. All of this is relatively easy once you successfully get your first setting changed. Let me know how it goes.
Wow! Now it is the time to buy the cable and try the software. For the Variant #, do we have to guess and try? Or there is a document explaining what they mean?
 
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Wow! Now it is the time to buy the cable and try the software. For the Variant #, do we have to guess and try? Or there is a document explaining what they mean?
Yeah, can't beat $19 for a cable to do all of this. In the earlier days of ETACS mods, you had to buy a $100+ cable. Can't say enough about these guys who have matured this platform. The documentation for all of this is hit or miss. Not all of the variant #'s are explained, so there is some guesswork (and lots of reading) involved. Instructions link below, but you'll need to translate it through google. You also need to select your "ETACS block" from the dropdown list. The only reason I know mine is because after you connect Etacs Decoder to your car, it will tell you what block your car is. Mine was 8637A869 for my 2016 GT. Not sure if all 2016's have the same block or not. Regardless, choosing this number will get you close enough. The variant #'s vary only because we all have different models and years. The descriptions remain the same, but more or less may be available for you particular model. If your variant #'s don't match mine, the right # is probably a couple spots above or below on the list.

?????? ???????? Variant Coding ?? ?????? ECU (???-?????? ????????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????) - Mitsubishi ?????????????
 

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Thank you for the information.

Originally Posted by theSaint024
@TatayNiAndy, I've updated post #54 with all you need to know.

I just got taken off "probation" by Earl Vadimus and now have my usual 2 saves per day again. Like I said, don't even think about f'n around and skirting rules. I did it accidentally, and I still got punished! He was reasonable about the mistake though. So far in addition to the DRL's (parking LED's now, edited post #54 above), I've modified the seat belt chime, door lock logic, and attempting more too. This has opened a whole new world of possibilities!
 
Old Jul 30, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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Sure. It's not that hard (once you figure out all the pieces), but there are a lot of potential hiccups with ETACS that I was fortunate not to encounter unlike many others. Also, one caveat, my DRL's are basically the regular headlamps right now. I can't tell if it's lower intensity or if there is anything different about them at all. They are not the parking light LED's only. I still have to play around with some ETACS settings to see if I can get the parking lights to be the DRL's, but I'll take this for now. [edit] I got the parking LED's to act as the DRL's. Instructions edited below.

1) Need to move (and later replace) a relay in the engine hood fusebox. See attached pic. The circled relay in the lower left is missing on the 2016 (possibly other years, but I don't know for sure). I removed the de-icer relay two slots to the right and put it in the DRL socket for now. [edit] Ordered replacement relay from digikey.com. Part to search for is Panasonic ACVN51212. $7 including shipping.

2) Bought this cable from Amazon. Only $19!
Amazon.com: KONNWEI Mini Vci J2534 V8.10.021 for OEM Toyota Cable & Software TIS Techstream 2013 Newest: Automotive


3) Download ETACS Decoder. Latest version is 4.1.1.4 as of this post. You need to have a RAR extracting program to open/use file. I believe WinRAR is what I used. If you don't have, it's shareware.
ETACS Decoder forum

4) Follow these instructions in the link directly below to load drivers. It gets real difficult to follow here. The reason being, all of the past info is on an obsolete Lexia cable and old software. You need to find the relevant driver instructions on the Toyota Mini-VCI cable. The drivers are real particular for 32 bit vs. 64 bit, Windows XP vs. Windows 7+. This can get real confusing if you don't have a 32 bit Win XP machine. Luckily I did, so I didn't run into any additional issues here. There is a real good Toyota forum thread on how to load this on a Win 7+/64 bit laptop (people are most likely to have this), but I can't comment or advise as I didn't go that route. I installed probably more than I needed to, but I suspect the ones that mattered were the Toyota MVCI driver and XHorse (for Toyota MCVI).
ETACS Decoder forum - ETACS Decoder FAQ

5) Open Program. Register an account in options tab. This program is free for personal use. They enforce this by limiting saves to 2 per 24 hour period and requiring that you are online to use it. This is why I haven't been able to do more testing and configuring since I have to wait 24 hours each time. You can also buy more saves or unlimited amount for certain period. After registering and seeing that you have 2 saves in the upper right, close Program.

6) Connect the cable to the OBD2 in your car (under interior fusebox). Connect the cable to the USB on your laptop. Make sure you switch the driver to "MVCI for Etacs Decoder" on Options tab and make sure you switch on the program in the upper left if it doesn't start automatically. You will see the VIN getting pulled from your vehicle and the indicator lights on the lower left will turn colors other than red to indicate you have a connection and drivers are all working correctly.

7) For DRL's, go to the first tab ETACS Variant. Scroll down the options list into the 90's (on my 2016 GT, might be different number of options depending on model), there are 2 settings that need to be switched one at a time. I tried to do both at once and it didn't work. Do option 99 (the second of the two), first. Switch it to "Present (can change)". Then press "Encode", then press "Write to ETACS". Follow the instructions. After restarting, when it asks if you want to "restore...", the answer is YES. You will lose one of your saves after this. You have one more to change the setting #98. DRL - "Present Normal". This is the one I used to get it to work initially. I later found out that "Independent with P" is the ideal setting. This one uses the parking LED's and only when you have the parking brake off. Again press "Encode", then "Write to ETACS". Follow on screen instructions again.

Wasn't very hard (after filtering all of the noise in the ETACS instructions for days, maybe weeks), but I didn't run into any driver or program issues that others have. If that happens, I'm happy to help via PM, but I'm not close to the expert on this (obviously). Also, if any of this is really confusing, I can clarify the write-up.

Cool thing is after you get that figured out, there are a ton of settings that you can play with on your Mits, albeit 2 per day. The forum threads and how-to's should make more sense after you have one under your belt.

You ever watch the Soup **** episode of Seinfeld? This is it for real. Don't ask dumb questions on any ETACS forums, read every possible forum thread. You will get banned from using this program by the owner. He has done a really great thing by making this program and offering support for FREE, but I assume he has grown tired of repetitive and lazy questions and doesn't tolerate it anymore. You have been warned or... No soup for you!

For more info, ETACS Thread. Yes, I suggest you absorb all 131 pages of it before even thinking about asking a question to the ETACS gurus:
https://mitsubishiforum.com/forum/mi...ization-40223/
I don't know where you are, but if we cross paths I owe you a beer. This morning my wife's 2016 SEL got DRL's and it was pretty simple. Her DRL's were in the low 100's and I was able to do both options on the same update and have it work. Now I need to buy the additional relay. Good stuff. Thanks Saint.

Additional side note If you have a windows 10 computer running 32 bit (Like my Asus table) driver install is super easy.
 
Old Jul 30, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by callmesnake
I don't know where you are, but if we cross paths I owe you a beer. This morning my wife's 2016 SEL got DRL's and it was pretty simple. Her DRL's were in the low 100's and I was able to do both options on the same update and have it work. Now I need to buy the additional relay. Good stuff. Thanks Saint.

Additional side note If you have a windows 10 computer running 32 bit (Like my Asus table) driver install is super easy.
I am sincerely happy you got it to work. I remember how floored I was when the DRL's finally came on. It's the little things in life. I'm always open for an excuse to go to a bar, but I won't hold my breath knowing there are likely logistical issues. Enjoy the car (the way it is supposed to be).
 
Old Jul 30, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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I am sincerely happy you got it to work. I remember how floored I was when the DRL's finally came on. It's the little things in life. I'm always open for an excuse to go to a bar, but I won't hold my breath knowing there are likely logistical issues. Enjoy the car (the way it is supposed to be).
It's good stuff for sure. I noticed a side effect though and I'm curious if you had this. It appears my countdown to next service counter is frozen at 6,000 and 6 months. According to etacs should be 7,500 and 6 months, but either way it's not counting down. Did this happen to you?
 
Old Jul 30, 2016 | 09:26 PM
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It's good stuff for sure. I noticed a side effect though and I'm curious if you had this. It appears my countdown to next service counter is frozen at 6,000 and 6 months. According to etacs should be 7,500 and 6 months, but either way it's not counting down. Did this happen to you?
I didn't notice that. But I just recently turned the service counter off (ETACS programming not needed for that). I'm going on my own 5k mile schedule. I think I'm in between, "regular" and "high stress" driving with my heavier city driving. I know that you can modify the maintenance intervals with ETACS so possible you inadvertently changed a setting? That would be pretty hard, but maybe ETACS did something odd.
 



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