i find it interesting that because i post information that contradicts you, my posts get deleted.

oh, an S2000 can't run 13's stock? sure it can't:
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=343031
oh and there's timeslips AND video proof in there.

secondly, again, the RX7 isn't a 1.3 liter if you're comparing it to a 4-stroke engine. it's a 2.6 liter. and in case you continue to need proof:
http://www.digi-go.biz/articles/volu...-miguel-p.html

and yes, a honda running 10psi can run 12's. that'd be the S2000. in fact, we have one running 32psi that runs low 10's. and on 6psi, S2000's can get into the 12's.

 

really? you can beat an S2000 on a road course? please provide video of you on a road course or provide some auto-x results where you competed.

and unfortunately, poorly riced out and tastelessly modded cars are the bane of every car make, not just hondas.

 

I drive an EVO and my parents actually owned an s2000 they traded it for a 04 crossfire which in all honesty drives better than the honda on corners and my car is by far better handleing than the two. and as I said either way hondas sound like ***. you can take you fart can honda have a blast with all that vtech TQ your making. must be fun waiting for that Vtech and not seeing a power gain at least turbo lag gives big gain and I hit full boost at 3000RPMS

 

If you think the EVO out-handles the S2000, you would be sorely mistaken. It's a decent handling car, however, it's nothing more than a mediocre A-stock performer. If you look at national championship level results (ie, the best drivers for both cars), the S2000 whomps on the EVO.

As for your personal tastes in cars, so be it. Though I could just as easily go "well EVO's sound like ***. have fun with your 3000rpm boost while I hit 13's naturally aspirated and stomp your car on a road course or auto-x on my gas sipping honda". But that's a pointless argument, since everyone has their own tastes.


here's some national championship A-stock results from 2005. You have to go to 19th place to even find the first EVO. meanwhile 11 S2000's finish ahead of the 19th place EVO.


2005 The Tire Rack SCCA Solo National Championships

A Stock Drivers: 45 Trophies:12

T 1 79 Paul J Kozlak 1997 Porsche 993 Blk Kumho 61.635 60.629 61.559 118.842



Litchfield, ME Red Haus Racing New England Reg/NE 58.382 58.365 58.213
T 2 147 Scott McHugh 1989 Chevrolet Corvette Red Kumho 62.248 62.008 62.580 119.849


[47] Santa Clarita, CA KUMHO / McRACING Cal Club Region/SP 58.512 58.471 57.841 -1.007
T 3 63 Jason Saini 2001 Honda S2000 Ylw Hoosier 61.246 60.765 61.628 119.944



Lake Forest, IL over6racing.com/Motorsport-Exchange.com Chicago Region/CN 62.990(2) 59.179 60.806(1) -0.095
T 4 157 Mike Bullis 95 Chevy ZR-1 Blk Hoosier 62.799 61.296 62.404 120.064


[57] Lake in the Hills, IL Frohman Racing/R & R Autoglass/RAFT Chicago/Cn 60.313 77.051(3) 58.768 -0.120
T 5 199 Robert J Klingler 2004 Honda S2000 Ylw Kumho 63.950 62.503 64.162(1) 120.585


[99] Colorado Springs, CO BK Racing Continental Div/RM 59.405 58.509 58.082 -0.521
T 6 57 Dan Wurzer 1995 Chevy ZR-1 Blk Hoosier 62.072 61.710 61.665 121.435


[157] Chicago, IL R&R autoglass/Frohman racing/R.A.F.T Chicago Region/CN 60.459 60.650 59.770 -0.850
T 7 91 Steve Wynveen 2001 Honda S2000 Ylw Hoosier 61.958 65.360(2) 63.148 121.601



Germantown, WI Mercury Marine/Todd Green Milwaukee Regio/CN 59.643 61.309(1) 60.461(1) -0.166
T 8 98 Steve Sucsy 2000 Honda S2000 Red Hoosier 62.153 62.192 62.914 121.766



Lubbock, TX Rick's Tire Warehouse West Texas Regi/SW 61.618 60.094 59.613 -0.165
T 9 59 Colin Fiedler 2000 Honda S2000 Slv Hoosier 63.447 65.871(1) 63.032 121.807



New Berlin, WI Stock Shocks Racing Milwaukee Regio/CN 58.775 60.647(1) 61.096(1) -0.041
T 10 46 Christopher M Kline 1989 Chevrolet Corvette Red Kumho 64.030 62.525 62.764 122.003


[146] Saint Charles, MO KUMHO St Louis Region/MW 59.931 59.560 59.478 -0.196
T 11 87 Aruch Poonsapaya 2001 Honda S2000 Slv Kumho 61.734 61.915 61.665 122.025



Harwood Heights, IL
Chicago Region/CN 60.360 63.808(2) 60.381 -0.022
T 12 83 Gregg A Lee 2000 Honda S2000 Slv,Dk
62.388 64.128(1) 64.646 122.503



Glen Rose, TX Equipe Rapide Sports Car Club Texas Region/SW 60.530 60.115 62.119(1) -0.478

13 170 Andrew Howe 2000 Honda S2000 Blk Kumho 63.532 69.699(1) 62.620 122.795


[70] Salem, OR Primitive Performance Driving Oregon Region/NP 60.797 60.175 DNF -0.292

14 193 N C Bellamy 1996 Chevy Corvette Blk Hoosier 62.727 63.678 63.733 123.034


[93] Grapevine, TX Equipe Rapide Sports Car Club Texas Region/SW 61.258 60.307 64.685(2) -0.239

15 61 Gord Zacharias 01 Honda S2000 Slv Kumho 64.265 65.916 67.862 123.218


[161] Morden, MB Southland Honda CN 60.842 60.984 58.953 -0.184

16 99 Daniel Heydlauff 2004 Honda S2000 Ylw Kumho 64.132 63.777 63.446 123.785


[199] Colorado Springs, CO Facilities Contracting Continental Div/RM 64.592(2) 61.729 60.339 -0.567

17 45 Mark S Hill 2001 honda S2000 Pwt Hoosier 63.826 63.176 62.156 123.792



Lawrence, KS
Kansas Region/MW DNF 61.636 DNF -0.007

18 47 Tom McDaniel 1989 Chevrolet Corvette Red Kumho 64.195(1) 62.866 62.960 123.837


[147] Merlin, OR Spin Control Motorsports/Kumho/MC Racing Cal Club Region/SP 60.971 63.278(1) 61.504 -0.045

19 62 Jerry Irvine 2005 Mitsu Lancer Evolution M Gry Kumho 62.953 65.115 65.178 123.876

 

i'm not trying to be some useless troll. all i'm trying to do is dispel some myths and outright incorrect information. nothing more.

 

ok and from that all I see is the nearly the exact same times between the s2000 and EVO? Am i missing something??. I know the s2000 handles well as does the EVO but hoenstly that and the NSX are 2 cars that are decent\Nice however any of the others have nothing. the RSXs are decent and can hit high 13s with little mods but I have seen countless RSXs burn to the ground with turbo kits not sure why that is Poor designed kit most likely.

As I have said all along they can be fast the sound bad they are good on gas they look bad (with the small exection of a few) not that the EVO is a nice looking car cause its not and I will admitt it. N\A and no TQ kinda sucks ***.

I am in no way trying to knock the s2000 they are nicely build but driving it i was very very un impressed with it (stock that is) now in a straight line I have yet to come across a honda that can keep up and my car isnt fast by any means I have raced some heavily modded civics and stuff and still walked them with only an intake and MBC. Like I said before the problem I have with hondas is when people take them and think they are fast and put a muffler and call it a day they are family economy cars nor hot rods you know?

and there is nothing wrong with a little argument on the forums as long as they dont get outta hand. thats what we are here for. One thing though this one thread is a little on going from its origanal topic lol. guess its the only honda disscussion around here though

 

haha agreed. if we didn't have arguments on forums, no one would visit them.

 

absolutly, and it makes it easy to argue when your on a mitsu forum talking about hondas LOL. nothing wrong with like you said is is all personal preference which is 100% true.

 

tis is fun and crazy. lol.. talking about honda crx.. i hate those the most... lol... prolly due to the people who droves it.. lol.. i beaten a crx with my nissan maxima 90 couple months ago.. and now wit my GSt 95, i haven't seen any Crx try to revov. in front of me.

one more thing i gotta add up. that fagg chinese dude on the crx last time at the mall.. He tried to revov his engine hella loud to get attention on us or someithng.. it was a stop. they supposed to stop, we walked across the street, and he Did took off, but my bro walk and did back off, he gotta switch back to gear. lol... hella funny. then afterward, he farted with his exhaust.

 

and one more thing.. i don't think Honda civics or Accord or prelude sucks... as you see, most asian drives it.. cause. well, reliability... and yea.. you barely fix up hondas... but for mitsubishi... or others.. you fix a lot... that's just how it is... but ... if it sucks.... more like.. cars that can't run and break down all the time... don't you guys agree?.. just different preference..

one more thing.. lol.. inside joke, so don't get offended... my mechanic always call my eclipse gst a Mitsibull****... because he say, they always give him a hard time fixing always. lol.. but it's cool.