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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK
No I'm not. Perhaps my choice of wording was poor, I was refering to the AFS (Adaptive Front-lighting System) - "...provides increased illumination of corners when the car is turning"
Here's some info about what you're referencing, but my 2010 Outlander XLS does not feature these:

AFS | Technology Library | Automobile Technology | Mitsubishi Motors Automobile Manufacturing | MITSUBISHI MOTORS
 
Old Oct 7, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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There's no physical movement on the Outlander (mine's 2012 ZH XLS), it uses these inner reflectors, simply turning them on/off depending on wheel angle vs speed. So if I slow down and take a left turn, the left-hand inner light turns on, casting a pool of light to the left and down.

I haven't found anything yet which indicates whether or not the DRL and AFS system use the exact same reflectors; if I found a case of someone having both systems from stock, using the same housing, then that would indicate yes.

I was actually quite surprised when I figured out it was using these lights; from the way the light is cast, I figured it was turning on one side of the fog lights. On my model, these inner reflectors are used only for the AFS system, they have no other use. Maybe I should just try swapping in a relay into the DRL slot and see if they turn on...
 

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Old Oct 8, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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DRL and AFS share same reflector. You cannot have both, market-depending it is either DRL or AFS.

Main difference is bulb socket/connector. Obviously, additional ECU is needed for AFS operation.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 12:34 AM
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Vadimus, do you have any info on the particulars of the bulbs etc? By "cannot have both", is this an ECU thing or physical limitations/differences? If for instance someone wanted DRL instead of AFS.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK
Vadimus, do you have any info on the particulars of the bulbs etc? By "cannot have both", is this an ECU thing or physical limitations/differences? If for instance someone wanted DRL instead of AFS.
I would imagine while the reflector remains the same, there would be a mechanical part for AFS where as DRL are fixed bulbs.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cali Duck
I would imagine while the reflector remains the same, there would be a mechanical part for AFS where as DRL are fixed bulbs.
So are AFS.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK
Vadimus, do you have any info on the particulars of the bulbs etc? By "cannot have both", is this an ECU thing or physical limitations/differences? If for instance someone wanted DRL instead of AFS.
If someone wants DRL instead of AFS I will send him needed parts for exchange of AFS ECU sent to me
 
Old Oct 11, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vadimus
So are AFS.
AFS are fixed? I thought the bulbs were phyically turning when cornering...so whatever socket they go into must be mechanical
 
Old Oct 11, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cali Duck
AFS are fixed? I thought the bulbs were phyically turning when cornering...so whatever socket they go into must be mechanical
Nope, as I said, on the Outlander it only turns the light on or off depending on speed vs wheel angle. Think more "cornering lamp" than "adaptive", lots of cars have bumper-mounted lights for this (Nissan Maxima comes to mind, Holden Statesman I think, ...), just never seen it in a headlamp assembly before.

Vadimus, I do like the AFS so would want to keep it, just laterally thinking of ways to get both operating "legally" Which probably can't happen, as legally speaking there aren't any certified LED drop-ins available yet; I think Phillips are the only ones that have made any certified replacements.
Any idea if the different bulbs/sockets put the filament focal point at a different location?
From personal observation, would your stock DRL beams be useable as AFS if only one side was lit?
 
Old Oct 12, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK
Nope, as I said, on the Outlander it only turns the light on or off depending on speed vs wheel angle. Think more "cornering lamp" than "adaptive", lots of cars have bumper-mounted lights for this (Nissan Maxima comes to mind, Holden Statesman I think, ...), just never seen it in a headlamp assembly before.
Ohhhh ok yea, I was thinking BMW style where the lights physically point in the direction of the turn.

Thanks for the clarifications, I don't think this style of lighting would benefit cornering..my 2 cents
 

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