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Old 12-20-2013, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Elisha
Having owned the 08 AWC and now the 2012 XLS S-AWC, the S-AWC is more road performance oriented. It's meant for tighter turns and so on. My 08 was better in winter by far.
And my 08 had Goodyear SilentArmour 235/70 R16 A/T tires on them while my 2018 uses Toyo Observe G-02 Plus 225/55 R18 which are dedicated winter tires!

I hardly slid sideways on my 08 in winter but have slid numerous times with the 2012 S-AWC.
Sounds more like a tire problem to me, looked at the first couple pages of reviews on 1010tires.com for your Toyo's; Saw a fair amount of mentions of being poor in wet conditions and sliding problems. I too have gotten sideways with my S-AWC and General Altimax Arctic tires in icy/slushy conditions. However I need to turn ASC off and hammer the accelerator to do so. I've never slid without intentionally trying to. With the ASC on and hard acceleration the backend will only pop out a foot or 2 before the ASC lays on the outside brakes and jars me straight.
 
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YahFargo
Sounds more like a tire problem to me, looked at the first couple pages of reviews on 1010tires.com for your Toyo's; Saw a fair amount of mentions of being poor in wet conditions and sliding problems. I too have gotten sideways with my S-AWC and General Altimax Arctic tires in icy/slushy conditions. However I need to turn ASC off and hammer the accelerator to do so. I've never slid without intentionally trying to. With the ASC on and hard acceleration the backend will only pop out a foot or 2 before the ASC lays on the outside brakes and jars me straight.
Possible but I doubt it. The lack of traction is on snow itself.
Also I find that the S-AWC in general sends way too much power to the front wheels by default compared to AWC.

The S-AWC is way more fun to drive overall just not as confidence inspiring as my old AWC in winter.
 
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:10 PM
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Remember that suv has a center diff lock it will lock front and back. like any awd or 4wd, it will not lock front or back diff. I got stock a few time with my outie, any 4x4 vehicle as a limit. I found if you play with the break same time as gas then release break the 4 tire spin so might help. But not all tire will necessary spin at the same time.
 
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:50 PM
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Front diff of S-AWC Outlander (2010+ GT/US and XLS/Canada) is lockable.
 
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Vadimus
Front diff of S-AWC Outlander (2010+ GT/US and XLS/Canada) is lockable.
And where did you get that information from?
I got stock few times and only way to get all tire spining is putting the break.

Mitsubishi S-AWC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:35 PM
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From here

and here

Or from my car's manual

I can also give you 2 different transfer case part numbers - for AWC and for S-AWC models.
 
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vadimus
From here Mitsubishi Outlander GT Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) Demonstration - YouTube

and here The Auto123 Show 13x04 - Donna tries SAWC! - YouTube

Or from my car's manual

I can also give you 2 different transfer case part numbers - for AWC and for S-AWC models.


There is no car that has the front diff lock. Even the jeep wrangler only have rear diff lock. If you lock front diff you will not be able to steer the vehicle since when you turn left and right tire will go same speed. When you turn one tire actualy go faster then the other one. Outlander might have a limited slip diff but no diff lock. The locl button on the outlander only mean the 4wd is always one, but same thing if i go a certain speed it will not be one. Not like a pickuo truck with a real diff.
 

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Old 01-05-2014, 08:37 AM
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Sawc has a computer controlled front diff which can selectively send more or less power to the left or right wheels depending on traction conditions. It doesn't lock in the traditional sense but should be able to outperform a standard diff that just sends power to the place of least resistance.


I actually saw the sideways things come on when I got myself stuck in my driveway... I really need new tires. These things are garbage.
 
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:30 AM
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Mitsu's front diff, in tech docs called ELSD, is not an Off/On thing, it is an electrically controlled coupling, pretty much like the one controlling amount of torque sent to rear wheels.
 

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